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    SSD's and Raid 0... hmmm

    I am building a PC for a friend and feel like giving an SSD a go.

    I was thinking of using one as the OS drive (in this case XP) and a F1 hdd for other progs and
    data. However they are either stupidly expensive i.e the intel ones or if cheap suffer from stuttering
    ala the OCZ cores. Having said that I have read that they stutter due to how XP, vista, etc are
    optimised for HDDs but a few reg tweaks sorts this out.

    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=42487

    If I do get one (say the ocz core V2 30 GB) how should I set up the install. Should I move the
    page file to the HDD because of slower writes, would installing some of the common progs he
    uses on the SSD be a good idea (firefox, office, cubase, doesnt do games).

    Because of the slow writes with these things would raid 0 be of benefit. Would the intel southbridge
    raid be good enough for this, how much more performance would there be with a proper raid card.
    (one under £50)
    Last edited by Kumagoro; 01-12-2008 at 11:21 PM.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    If you did get one move all the random writes to a mechanical drive - so page file, temp files, cookies etc.

    RAID 0 would be of benefit, both in the writing and effective increasing of cache. The intel southbridge RAID would be fine.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Don't forget that swapping to a flash drive is a quick way to kill it, as well as being slow. This is where I believe Vista's ReadyBoost is severely misguided.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    I take it you mean having a swap file on it will wear it out quicker.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by Kumagoro View Post
    I take it you mean having a swap file on it will wear it out quicker.
    That is exactly what I mean =D

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    i thought the whole rewrite limit was debunked a while ago, some research estimated that ssds being written to 27/7 would last longer than a regular hd

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Yeah, but they're at least 3 times slower than a mechanical drive.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    no they're not

    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ssd-x25-e.html

    i'd wait if you don't want to be an early adopter (read get screwed)
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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    no they're not

    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ssd-x25-e.html

    i'd wait if you don't want to be an early adopter (read get screwed)
    I think that's slightly different to the OCZ core series that the OP is talking about...

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    If your planning to use the PC in a car or in areas of high shock and vibration do get one.

    If not, don't waste your time and money.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by idlehanz View Post
    If your planning to use the PC in a car or in areas of high shock and vibration do get one.

    If not, don't waste your time and money.
    Even if considering car use, a 2.5" might still be more suitable with a little shock mounting.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    I was under the impression SSD's were faster than standard hard drives, correct me if I'm wrong

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    I read up on the OCZ a month or so ago and was fairly impressed but didn't have any cash spare.

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by choongsta View Post
    I was under the impression SSD's were faster than standard hard drives, correct me if I'm wrong
    In what circumstance are you comparing them?

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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by choongsta View Post
    I was under the impression SSD's were faster than standard hard drives, correct me if I'm wrong
    The really high end ones are.

    The thing is the price point of these is still prohibitive for many users.

    kalniel, i know the op wasn't talking about the X25-E, my point is there are some SSDs out there that are actually brilliant, they are worth waiting for to come into price range imo.
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    Re: SSD's to get one or not... hmmm

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    The really high end ones are.

    The thing is the price point of these is still prohibitive for many users.

    kalniel, i know the op wasn't talking about the X25-E, my point is there are some SSDs out there that are actually brilliant, they are worth waiting for to come into price range imo.
    Oh, if they ever do come in price range, then hell yes, SLC drives are stunning.

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