Argh, which 17" tft the Samsung 172V or the Acer AL1714

[mattyp]

Samsung Specs

http://www.samsung.co.uk/cgi-bin/ec...=GY17VSSS%2fXEU

Acer Specs

http://www.acer.co.uk/acereuro/page...&crc=1070810037

It appears the Acer has a 14ms TFT panel, while the sammy is 25ms

Also the contrast ratio is 350:1 on the acer and 250:1 with the samsung .

Is the acer really better or is it all a lie

[directhex]

erm neither?

Iiyama Prolite E431S

though yes, all specs the manufacturers give you are marketing BS.

[mattyp]

erm neither?

Iiyama Prolite E431S

though yes, all specs the manufacturers give you are marketing BS.

Its just I get both of those for about £255/260 so a good £60 cheaper

I though the acers had a good rep, but then if its all BS then im even more confused

[mattyp]

or the IIYAMA PROLITE E430 which is about £275?

[directhex]

14msec will NOT be across the whole color spectrum - it'll be 14msec for a very limited set of colors, or 14 sec down, plus an undisclosed number up. manufacturers quote whatever they feel like for screen stats - some manufacturers have a 75% stat difference between US & UK pages for the same hardware on things like pixel response.

Suffice to say the E431S is the best 17" TFT I've seen. The 430 is the same but has no DVI

And why pay less for worse kit?

[Spud1]

ok ever so slightly OT here, but why are you getting a tft? for that money you could get a top end CRT which would give you a much better picture and last a lot longer.. only reason for getting a tft atm is space

but if you did want to waste your money on a tft, i would say the IIyama like matty suggests, or the hercules one if you can find one

[mattyp]

14msec will NOT be across the whole color spectrum - it'll be 14msec for a very limited set of colors, or 14 sec down, plus an undisclosed number up. manufacturers quote whatever they feel like for screen stats - some manufacturers have a 75% stat difference between US & UK pages for the same hardware on things like pixel response.

Suffice to say the E431S is the best 17" TFT I've seen. The 430 is the same but has no DVI

And why pay less for worse kit?

Oh I see, thats a nasty trick on the part of the manufacturer

[mattyp]

ok ever so slightly OT here, but why are you getting a tft? for that money you could get a top end CRT which would give you a much better picture and last a lot longer.. only reason for getting a tft atm is space

but if you did want to waste your money on a tft, i would say the IIyama like matty suggests, or the hercules one if you can find one

I currently have a 19" Mitsubishi Plus 91 DiamondTron Flatscreen CRT. (Which is very good) but I would like to cut down on the space taken and also try and save my eyes a bit, as I believe TFTs are much better for your eyes

[directhex]

I have a 2-year-old TFT and wouldn't switch back to a CRT if you paid me.

[mattyp]

I have a 2-year-old TFT and wouldn't switch back to a CRT if you paid me.

Whats the best price I should be lookin at on the 431 you recommended?

I have found £312 ish

Compared to £275 on the E430

[directhex]

the difference between the 430 and 431 is DVI.

that said the VGA on the 430 si very good.

[Spud1]

I currently have a 19" Mitsubishi Plus 91 DiamondTron Flatscreen CRT. (Which is very good) but I would like to cut down on the space taken and also try and save my eyes a bit, as I believe TFTs are much better for your eyes

tfts are no better for your eyes tbh..but then if you dont play games or watch dvds on your PC a tft will suit you fine, espec if you need the space

I still remain on my position that tfts are currently no where near the quality of a decent CRT; but it aint my money

[mattyp]

tfts are no better for your eyes tbh..but then if you dont play games or watch dvds on your PC a tft will suit you fine, espec if you need the space

I still remain on my position that tfts are currently no where near the quality of a decent CRT; but it aint my money

Really our university has just spent a small fortune for that very reason

Also its meant to reduce glare and radiation, is that not true then?

[directhex]

Yes, it is true.

That and a TFT consumes 4-5 times less electricity to run, making them cheaper for places like unis to use. They _DO_ reduce eye strain, as they do not rely on fooling the eye with a single moving pixel.

And for the record only one person in our house is still on a CRT, and that's because he got a bad TFT and is too lazy to return it.