The main issue is that both the future Intel standard and high performance processors will have different processor sockets!! The i7 has socket 1366 and the i5 has the socket 1160!! If I were getting the i7 I would wait for prices of the motherboards and RAM to drop. The £350 cost for the cheapest socket 1366 motherboard and 6gb RAM is too high in todays market!!
Wow!! My 1000th post already!!
i5 will run slower then the i7's so why should i wait for that? if the socket 1160 was the high end and the current 1366 was the low end then that would be an issue but seeing as buying a i7 now will last me a while, its worth it if you have the money to splash.
Will it last you a while?? Within a year both Intel and AMD will probably have cheaper processors that will decimate it for performance. The motherboards and RAM also will cost less. Until the beginning of 2007 for example 4gb of 800mhz DDR2 would have cost £200+. Now it costs one fifth of that. The same with processors when a 2.4ghz E6600 would have cost you nearly £200. A faster E5200 now costs £65 and a quad core Q6600 under £140. These processors also only cost that much due to the very weak pound. When the pound was stronger a few months ago the Q6600 could have been had for under £120.
At least wait until the Phenom II is out(in the next few weeks) as the extra competition will cause Intel to cut prices on its Core2 processors. The i7 prices will also drop as Intel will want to sell as many of these especially in todays economic climate.
Buying higher end computer components in "anticipation" of potential need for it for applications in 6 to 12 month is pointless and especially so when you overclock.
Many people did this with Crysis and bought Nvidia 8800GTS 320mb and 640mb graphics cards which were humbled by the game. At the same time the 8800GT 512mb came out and was much faster and cheaper. The same was true of the 2900XT which was replaced by the cheaper HD3870.
Unless you have a present application that can make huge use of the extra performance then it is no point.
I know that socket 1156 is not out yet but is shows that Intel maybe doing what AMD did once - have two separate sockets. Both sockets did not have a very long lifetime also.
Also will any of the future socket 1366 processors (the 32nm version) be compatible with the earlier motherboards?? Look at the majority of Intel 875 and 975 motherboards for example when it came to later socket 775 processors for example!
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 02-01-2009 at 03:06 PM.
the 32nm version ie die shrinks of i7 will have what? 10-20% performance increase over a typical i7 920 thats out now? look at the penryns ie the q9xxx, they are only 10-20% faster then the q6xx series.
someone who had bought a q6xx when it first came out is still probably getting alot of play with it now as we speak and how long has the q6xx been out?
if the i7 follows a similar road then it will be at least 2 years from now till we see the next big thing from intel themselves. CPU'S technology doesnt advance as quickly as graphics cards from what i can see. yes we will see more i7 cpu come out this year that are abit cheaper and yes prices of mobo and ram will decrease in time but i have waited long enough and i really need a new rig. im prepared to wait maybe 2-3 weeks max before i pull the trigger.
i have been stuck on a p4 for a while as you can see plus people in general have said that there is no point in waiting. if your ready to spend the cash now, do it.
My E6600 is still a bargain anyway i look at it. 200 pounds 2 years ago and once I over clock it to 3.4ghz will match a 3.33ghz E8600 that cost 216 pounds =P
Except the Q6600 was not a high end processor with the necessity for an expensive motherboard and ram. This is why it always has been considered somewhat of a bargain and it could be overclocked to 3ghz+ easily and cheaply. The much expensive Q6700 did not sell as well as a result.
My two year old E4300 could reach 3.1 ghz to 3.2 ghz easily and cost around £100. With the lower cache it is slightly slower clock for clock but for around 80% to 85% of the performance of your overclocked E6600 for nearly half the price it was a good buy. I originally wanted to get an E6600 too but waited a few weeks longer so it was well worth the wait.Originally Posted by Infinite
the Q6600 is the equivalent to a 920 but as you noted, diddnt need an expensive mobo and ram to run it, However, ddr2 rams those days where still on the £100+ mark for a 4gb if im not mistaken. its only in the last 6-7 odd months that ddr2 have fallen dramaticly.
what was the price of ddr2 when q6600 was first launched?
Except that no game needed 4gb to run back then. The price of ddr2 started to plummet in the second half of 2007 BTW. There was some price fixing by some of the companies which made the RAM chips if I remember rightly!!
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 02-01-2009 at 05:23 PM.
When did it come out?
here's some memory prices (hunted out rock bottom prices at the time)
02 Nov 2007
Geil Ultra DDR2 2.0GB PC6400 Dual Channel memory kit (2 x 1GB) 800MHz (4-4-4-12) = £44
03 may 2007
Unbranded (micron chips) 1gb DDR2 PC6400 800mhz (5-5-5-18) = £64 (for 2 sticks)
(corsair 2x1gb CL5 was £80ish at the time)
22 Mar 2007
Geil Ultra DDR2 2.0GB PC6400 DUal Channel memory kit (2 x 1GB) 800MHz (4-4-4-12) = £118
ahhhh well...... =P
DDR3 is gona follow the same trend i think.
Go for the Core i7 if you have your heart set on it mate, there isn't often a good time to buy computer parts, they almost always devalue rapidly.... sure, the X58s and DDR3 will come down in price eventually, but no one can predict when, and even if they came down within 6 months to a year, would that be any use to you?
The CPU should last a while, they perform well, and overclock to around 4.0GHz on average.... you will just be able to whack a new graphics card in when you need to. Plus X58s have Crossfire AND Sli capability if you fancy that sort of thing....
As you say, if you are spending a lot you don't want to be paying for technology that may be obselete soon.
Hope you like the new build.
j.o.s.h.1408 (02-01-2009)
I don't think the x58 mobos are going to come down in price by a large margin, at least not for a while
x38 and x48 mobos are still expensive, and with Intel about to introduce a whole different socket for the lower-end, I can see the x58 holding most of it's value.
Could be completely wrong though
its all about supply and demand haha, when all these people buy them, intel can recover their costs and will lower the price..
No it wont.
Clock speed does not equate to power.
but that E8xx is only 10-20% faster clock for clock mate, its just a die shrink of the first core 2 cpu's
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