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    Quote Originally Posted by Proplus
    If you think about it, it all doesn't make sense.

    If a manufacturer has made a 500Gb HDD, then they would release it out on the market and become a 'first' in sector. Its only now, Hitachi have launched a 400Gb HDD......
    i've heard so much bullrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish on this thread its unbelievable.

    the point is that the extra space is there:

    and is probably very buggy
    where it isn't buggy, its there in case other space does become buggy.

    If manufacterers released these drives as 500gb, they would be wasted with RMAs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgr
    i've heard so much bullrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish on this thread its unbelievable.
    I'm all for people conjecturing, but I'm with you on this, especially when people just sit there without testing it.

    Sure, some may not be up to it or have the spare drives to risk - but at least give the rest of us a chance to investigate.
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    Well said guys

    Ill remove any non productive material from this point on wards
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    OK guys after much work and experimenting I have found the following:

    You don't need to set any drives as master/slave, you just need 2 drives, as long as your BIOS has a boot menu it works

    I have taken my 80gB IBM Deskstar 120GXP to 120gB Going to fill the space but it'll take a long time... I'll run a chkdsk on it

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    chkdsk came clean... filling drive for now, ill report back in some hours

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    OK, I've found a way of doing this trick with just one drive!

    Here's how:

    I've still not worked out how to use gdisk32 to create the ghost partition, but I got sneaky.

    I installed ghost, and ran the backup wizard. I had prepared a bootdisk with gdisk (the dos version, not the 32bit version) on it. I let ghost wizard reboot the computer, then booted off the floppy.

    I then ran "gdisk 1 /-act /p:2" this deactivates the second partition on the first hard disk (it doesn't hide it, it just stops it being bootable.)

    Next I ran "gdisk 1 /act /p:1" and made the original partition (with windaz on it) bootable again.

    Hit reset, bam, back in windows, ghost gets all arsey about a failed backup, but wayhey, my 6GB WD drive has 4GB of unpartitioned space at the end of it - exactly what I'd expect from the product range.

    I found some file errors on the Seagate since then (the ghost installer cab corrupt) but I'm still not sure if they're down to the drive being nackered or the mod. Now that I'm working on a perfectly fine drive I'm more confident of reliable results.

    This partition activation also explains why the Seagate was non bootable - the virtual ghost partition was made active, and the windows partition deactivated, so reactivating the windows partition should make it bootable again!

    Woo this is fun!
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    nice work Kez
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    Wow Kez, keep going and find a 100% workable way to do this and people might be very grateful of your hard work!

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    The slashdotters have got their hands on this theory through a hardocp link and they're ripping it to shreds.

    I've not seen any of them trying it out though, just ranting about how it won't work. I can't be bothered to read all 500 posts though.

    Anyway, I'm doing a partition-partition copy of the games folder on the WD now, and it's going mightly slow.

    Further notes - gdisk reports that partitions are overlapping. It reported this on my modded Seagate, and when I was altering the active partitions (while the 10MB ghost partition existed) it also commented that it was overlapping on my WD drive. So, I'm still concerned that something is going wrong in the partition table, but I'm more and more optimistic as the amount of space I'm yielding is not doubling, it is increasing to the max size of the product range (or thereabouts.)

    Edit - the WD just reset itself while copying, some sort of nasty error. It's not looking good for it.
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    I'm filling my drive right now, I filled the new 40gB partition and am now filling the old 80gB...

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    Blimey - have you seen the number of views this thread has had!

    I've gone back to the Seagate for a bit - not sure why I got the BSOD on the WD, probably down to the reason WD "disabled" the rest of the space, if that's what they did.

    Anyway, I reactivated the Seagate's boot partition, and it booted fine, which, after all I've done to it, seems to indicate that this thing works at least in part. Of course, all I can tell is that the "extra" partition hasn't nackered any of the OS files, which are near the beginning of the drive. I'm now copying a 5GB file that I've md5'd. I will md5 it again once it's on the drive and I've messed copying stuff about a bit - then we'll see if it goes corrupt or not.

    Once I get the WD going again I'll use the same test on there too (with a smaller file) beacuse I still reckon this nackered Seagate will end up trashing the file anyway!

    Edit: The fan on my BIOS modded voodoo 3 had become disconnected and may have been the cause of the crash. I'm still not sure, but I have the case panel off so the 120mm fan in it wouldn't have been circulating air to the graphics card, which isn't good if the fan on the card is not spinning either!
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    D: 76.68/2.07GB E: 38.27/0.17GB

    Finished filling

    Gonna try to test this data out...

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    Excellent stuff Phaeton!

    I got an md5 on the 5gig file directly after copying and it's OK. I'm now copying a load of crap to the other partition to see if it nackers it up.

    I've also found out that an md5 on a 5gig file takes a while to process, lol!
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    i was copying mpgs and dvd imgs, and the imgs got split up into the mpgs on the new partition, some folders corrupt etc... sorry boys it didnt work for me

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    After an eight and a half minute md5 I got a checksum mismatch.

    I'm rebooting, chkdsking, and seeing if I can recover.

    Then, that'll be it for tonight, and I'll go back to testing the WD tomorrow as it's a more stable test subject (unless I've killed it from my earlier antics.)
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