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    Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Source: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...1155_and_1156/

    Ridiculous, more money grabbing from intel. You can buy an i5 and mobo cheaply now (not that i suspect it'd be cheap but...) and upgrade to i7 now, whats the point? :\

    It's 4.98*

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Old news

    It's gonna be what Socket 754 was for AMD. Budget systems and that one went down really well....

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    well £200 for the cheapest x58 motherboard is hardly 'budget' is it?

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterStoba View Post
    Source: http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...1155_and_1156/

    Ridiculous, more money grabbing from intel. You can buy an i5 and mobo cheaply now (not that i suspect it'd be cheap but...) and upgrade to i7 now, whats the point? :\
    I couldn't agree more with you. I guess its AMD for me.

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Why would you want to upgrade to an i7 from an i5?
    You're expecting the i5 to be slow or unable to match the i7?

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by SuGaR847 View Post
    I couldn't agree more with you. I guess its AMD for me.

    Yes as that makes perfect sence, AMD are far worse than intel for changing socket sizes for a new range.

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNV View Post
    Why would you want to upgrade to an i7 from an i5?
    You're expecting the i5 to be slow or unable to match the i7?
    Unable to match? Undoubtedly. Let me introduce you to my friend mister memory bandwidth benchmark

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Remember i7 is to i5 what X48 is to P45, well except that X48 and P45 could use the same CPU's in the same sockets. They shoulda just kept the same sockets!

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    i5 sounds like a poor mans i7 - count me in

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNV View Post
    Why would you want to upgrade to an i7 from an i5?
    You're expecting the i5 to be slow or unable to match the i7?
    It would be more if you wanted the use of Tri-Sli/CrossfireX, as the LGA1156 processors will use an on-bus PCI-E, which is rumoured to be only 16 Lanes, meaning one card at 16x or two at 8x. Also the memory controller will only be Dual Channel. I guess what will govern your choice is whether you as the consumer wants to run Tri-Sli/CrossfireX, and whether you think Triple Channel vs Dual Channel memory will give you a good increase in real world applications. It's also been noted that having the PCI-E lanes on-bus will give a lower latency between the CPU and the Graphics Card, which sounds great, but it still remains to see if that will give any real world increases.

    However on the flip side, if the board manufacturers can take some PCI-E lanes from the chipset as well as the CPU, then we could still see Tri-Sli/CrossfireX boards at a cheaper price.

    I would look more at the i5 and LGA1156 slot as being the P35 version of the X58, basically something more for the everyday user, someone who may still want to overclock, but not in the same way as your hardcore enthusiasts.

    Still the idea of the two chips not being interchangable is bad in my books, they should have stuck with the LGA1366 for all consumer boards, used the rumoured LGA1567 for server boards, and then just limited things within the chipset to produce the cheaper, more mainstream boards, basically like they did with the LGA775 and LGA771 and the chipsets like the P35 compared to both the X48 and 790i.

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Interesting. There doesn't seem to be much certainty about when i5/lynnfield/havendale will be released. This new socket diversity would seem to add more hardware confusion it's true. I can't help the feeling that i5 will end up pretty lame with it's integrated graphics, after all we all know motherboards with integrated graphics are poor, but who knows in the long term!

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    Remember i7 is to i5 what X48 is to P45, well except that X48 and P45 could use the same CPU's in the same sockets. They shoulda just kept the same sockets!
    Not quite, the reason here is the memory controller has now been moved onto the cpu ( like amd has done for years ) the big unknown here is how well the i5 memory controller will perform vs the i7
    It's not just down to pci-e lanes

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    Remember i7 is to i5 what X48 is to P45, well except that X48 and P45 could use the same CPU's in the same sockets. They shoulda just kept the same sockets!
    Sorry if this sounds dumb but i have looked at both x48 and p45 mobos lately. what is the difference? iv looked at asus p5q3 v asus p5e64 ie p45 v x48.

    apart form more sata ports i cant see a great deal of diff?

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by allyb View Post
    Sorry if this sounds dumb but i have looked at both x48 and p45 mobos lately. what is the difference? iv looked at asus p5q3 v asus p5e64 ie p45 v x48.

    apart form more sata ports i cant see a great deal of diff?
    The pci-e channels
    On p45 the two graphics card slots share a single 16 pci-e channel so if you put in 2 cards they share it running at x8 each
    On x48 each has a seperate x16 channel so two card can be both run at full x16

    How much difference this make is dependent on the card, most will hardly strech a x8 channel so there will be no real difference, where it starts to come in is when using dual gpu cards like the 4870x2 or gtx295 simpley because it take two gpu's to saturate a pci-e x16 bandwidth.

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by moogle View Post
    It's gonna be what Socket 754 was for AMD. Budget systems and that one went down really well....


    I guess intel will just have to learn from AMD's mistake by making it themselves.

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    Re: Core i5 to have a different socket to i7!

    Quote Originally Posted by Main View Post


    I guess intel will just have to learn from AMD's mistake by making it themselves.
    heck we should be celebrating, this could turn out really well for AMD

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