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Ridiculous, more money grabbing from intel. You can buy an i5 and mobo cheaply now (not that i suspect it'd be cheap but...) and upgrade to i7 now, whats the point? :\
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Ridiculous, more money grabbing from intel. You can buy an i5 and mobo cheaply now (not that i suspect it'd be cheap but...) and upgrade to i7 now, whats the point? :\
It's 4.98*
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It's gonna be what Socket 754 was for AMD. Budget systems and that one went down really well....
well £200 for the cheapest x58 motherboard is hardly 'budget' is it?
I couldn't agree more with you. I guess its AMD for me.Originally Posted by PeterStoba
Why would you want to upgrade to an i7 from an i5?
You're expecting the i5 to be slow or unable to match the i7?
Yes as that makes perfect sence, AMD are far worse than intel for changing socket sizes for a new range.
Unable to match? Undoubtedly. Let me introduce you to my friend mister memory bandwidth benchmark
Remember i7 is to i5 what X48 is to P45, well except that X48 and P45 could use the same CPU's in the same sockets. They shoulda just kept the same sockets!
i5 sounds like a poor mans i7 - count me in
It would be more if you wanted the use of Tri-Sli/CrossfireX, as the LGA1156 processors will use an on-bus PCI-E, which is rumoured to be only 16 Lanes, meaning one card at 16x or two at 8x. Also the memory controller will only be Dual Channel. I guess what will govern your choice is whether you as the consumer wants to run Tri-Sli/CrossfireX, and whether you think Triple Channel vs Dual Channel memory will give you a good increase in real world applications. It's also been noted that having the PCI-E lanes on-bus will give a lower latency between the CPU and the Graphics Card, which sounds great, but it still remains to see if that will give any real world increases.
However on the flip side, if the board manufacturers can take some PCI-E lanes from the chipset as well as the CPU, then we could still see Tri-Sli/CrossfireX boards at a cheaper price.
I would look more at the i5 and LGA1156 slot as being the P35 version of the X58, basically something more for the everyday user, someone who may still want to overclock, but not in the same way as your hardcore enthusiasts.
Still the idea of the two chips not being interchangable is bad in my books, they should have stuck with the LGA1366 for all consumer boards, used the rumoured LGA1567 for server boards, and then just limited things within the chipset to produce the cheaper, more mainstream boards, basically like they did with the LGA775 and LGA771 and the chipsets like the P35 compared to both the X48 and 790i.
Interesting. There doesn't seem to be much certainty about when i5/lynnfield/havendale will be released. This new socket diversity would seem to add more hardware confusion it's true. I can't help the feeling that i5 will end up pretty lame with it's integrated graphics, after all we all know motherboards with integrated graphics are poor, but who knows in the long term!
Not quite, the reason here is the memory controller has now been moved onto the cpu ( like amd has done for years) the big unknown here is how well the i5 memory controller will perform vs the i7
It's not just down to pci-e lanes
Sorry if this sounds dumb but i have looked at both x48 and p45 mobos lately. what is the difference? iv looked at asus p5q3 v asus p5e64 ie p45 v x48.
apart form more sata ports i cant see a great deal of diff?
The pci-e channels
On p45 the two graphics card slots share a single 16 pci-e channel so if you put in 2 cards they share it running at x8 each
On x48 each has a seperate x16 channel so two card can be both run at full x16
How much difference this make is dependent on the card, most will hardly strech a x8 channel so there will be no real difference, where it starts to come in is when using dual gpu cards like the 4870x2 or gtx295 simpley because it take two gpu's to saturate a pci-e x16 bandwidth.
I guess intel will just have to learn from AMD's mistake by making it themselves.
heck we should be celebrating, this could turn out really well for AMD
I guess intel will just have to learn from AMD's mistake by making it themselves.
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