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    Is this build ok?

    Well my mates dad needs a new pc, doesnt need to be able to run cad etc just normal home and office stuff(word etc). My mate will game on it a bit but nothing major so a ok gpu is needed.

    Heres my spec:

    CPU: e5200
    Mobo:Asus P5QL IP43
    GPU: ati 4830
    Ram: 4gb corsair ram
    Case: CoolerMaster RC 331 Elite
    HDD: 640gb AAKS (any alternatives?)
    PSU: 650W Xclio (overkill i know but its cheap but good)

    Any changes that i should consider? His budget is £500 but cheaper is better of course, ill get it ordered soon if its all alright.
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    Trust me, go into any local club and shout "I've got dual Nehalem Xeons" and all of the girls will practically collapse on the spot at the thought of your e-penis

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Looks fine to me mate, I wouldnt make any changes particularly.

    Hawker

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Looks good. Ocuk are selling OCZ modextremes for reasonable money. £50 for a 400W modular isn't bad by todays standards

    Personally though I would swap to AMD, get a 7750 X2 and Asus M3A78-EM for about £120 together and you get a nice system for now and it will be a good HTPC later if such a thing appeals.

    One of these with a couple of 120mm fans will be nice too
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...id=7&subcat=29 same at ebuyer if you prefer
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129891

    I like uATX towers, they do it all with quiet slow fans and they dont take up a lot of room either.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by staffsMike View Post
    Personally though I would swap to AMD, get a 7750 X2 and Asus M3A78-EM for about £120 together and you get a nice system for now and it will be a good HTPC later if such a thing appeals
    I was going to suggest that myself but, I predicted you would !

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Yup AMD way would be much better, at this moment.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    This the same mobo? http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...SATA-RAID-uATX

    And is the 340 much different than the 330?
    Xclio PSU seems to have gone, any recommendations on PSU which is around 500W but cheap enough(<&#163;50 at least).
    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Trust me, go into any local club and shout "I've got dual Nehalem Xeons" and all of the girls will practically collapse on the spot at the thought of your e-penis

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    I would also go for the AMD X2 7750+ as it is faster than a E5200 when both are compared at stock speeds. The E5200 has more overclocking potential though.

    I would go for this motherboard:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150278

    The EM is better than the CM as it has all solid capacitors and a few extra features for a similiar price!!

    The Corsair VX450W is around £50 and is a good power supply:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/450W-...PLUS-certified

    Another good value for money PSU is this OCZ one:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135159

    The best value for money is this 650W Xigmatek modular power supply:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/650W-...92-QUAD-SLI-PS

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Re PSU's, the Today Only deal on Scan for the 700W FSP700-80GLN @ £35 is a cracking deal.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Situation as I see it between AMD and intel at the low end. ie e5200 vs x2 7750BE
    At stock the 7750be is better, however the e5200 can be overclocked by a large amount and will out perform it by a good chunk (when at 3.5gb+)
    However not everyone will be happy to push there chips that high and you are never garrantied to get that high an overclock.
    So the cpu's by them selves are too closely matched to call.
    Which means it comes down to the motherboards.
    Now AMD definitely has the upper hand for mATX boards with both the excellent 780G and 8200 chipsets which are not that expensive.
    For ATX boards it's a harder call, as the AMD 790 boards come in around the same cost as the p41/p45 (note I'm personally not that keen on the p41 boards, the best ones seem to be a couple of the Asus models but they all have the really bad placement of the 24pin connector in the middle of the board)

    If Scan have got the FSP700-80GLN on today only again, Grab it now! it doesn't look fancy but it's basically there old Epsilon unit inside, with OEM outsides.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    OK so new buikld will be:
    CPU: AMD 7750BE- &#163;65
    Mobo:ASUS M3A78-EM, whats the dissadvantages of mATX boards? Ive only worked with ATX boards before tbh .- &#163;63
    Case: Coolermaster Elite 340/Difference from 330? its &#163;3 more - &#163;32.30
    GPU: ati 4830- Is this one any good? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151393...roduct_reviews Reviews seem to say its not loud so might get this one- &#163;90
    Ram: 4gb- Crucial ballistic 4GB (2X2GB Cas4 for &#163;46 or OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) Cas5 for &#163;39.99, think OCZ better buy, doesnt need overclocking.
    HDD: 640gb AAKS- Ok not on ebuyer but there is a 640gb samsung f1 for only &#163;49, better than the aaks?.
    PSU: Coolermaster 460W eXtreme Power Plus PSU - 20+4pin 4+4 ATX12v 4x SATA 6pin, any good? Its &#163;37 and its CM so it should be fine.

    Total:&#163;378. Any places that are cheaper in other places?
    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Trust me, go into any local club and shout "I've got dual Nehalem Xeons" and all of the girls will practically collapse on the spot at the thought of your e-penis

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    If you are getting that PSU you might as well buy this
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coole...60W-PSU-Fitted

    Same bits for less.

    I would get the OCZ modextreme if it was me, my OCZ gamexstream is standing the test of time

    all you lose with uATX is a bit of chipset cooling (which doesnt matter really since the chip has an unlocked multi for overclocking) and a couple of PCI slots. I think they are great these days.
    Last edited by staffsMike; 16-02-2009 at 05:10 PM.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Ok, same as before apart from the OCZ Stealth Xtream 500W PSU will be the new one, pushing it up to &#163;387 which is well within budget . So anything i need to look into with mATX? And would it be better to get this board instead... http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Biost...-SATA-RAID-ATX its out of stock atm but would it be better?.
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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Both good boards tbh..

    The 790GX chipset is a sort of.. pimped 780G. Overclocked IGP etc.. which doesn't really matter here.

    Personally I would take advantage of uATX's since and go for the 780G I have the 780V -CM board and it's great.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    I don't think the Biostar has all solid caps. I have a J&W Extreme 790GX board on order but, If it takes too long I'll probably cancel and get the asus matx.

    The 790GX boards have slightly better on-board graphics due to the sideport memory.
    Last edited by Sputnik; 16-02-2009 at 05:38 PM.

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    Re: Is this build ok?

    The X2 7750+ is under &#163;60 at Scan now!! The Xigmatek 650W for &#163;57 is good value if you want to get a modular PSU but it is a tad too powerful for your proposed system.
    Unless your overclocking a huge amount I would think that the Asus motherboard will be more than enough!!
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    Re: Is this build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    Well my mates dad needs a new pc, doesnt need to be able to run cad etc just normal home and office stuff(word etc). My mate will game on it a bit but nothing major so a ok gpu is needed.

    Heres my spec:

    CPU: e5200
    Mobo:Asus P5QL IP43
    GPU: ati 4830
    Ram: 4gb corsair ram
    Case: CoolerMaster RC 331 Elite
    HDD: 640gb AAKS (any alternatives?)
    PSU: 650W Xclio (overkill i know but its cheap but good)

    Any changes that i should consider? His budget is &#163;500 but cheaper is better of course, ill get it ordered soon if its all alright.
    The only thing I would change is the PSU. Anything in the 300-400W range from Corsair should be fine. Don't skimp on the PSU!

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