Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 25

Thread: Q6600 > q9650

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    508
    Thanks
    21
    Thanked
    18 times in 17 posts

    Q6600 > q9650

    As above, thinking of upgrading my system from a G0 Stepping Q6600 to a Q9650 that I can pick up for just short of £230.

    Any opinions on if this sounds a decent upgrade as I have the Q6600 overclocked @3.1ghz - what could I expect to get from the upgraded chip on air??

    The reason I really am upgrading is my Gigabyte Motherboard has trouble holding the overlock everytime I restart the computer it is a guess as to whether the overclock has stuck ... seems a problem with this particular board.

    thanks
    dc.

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    316
    Thanks
    24
    Thanked
    35 times in 23 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Shouldn't you get a new mobo instead of upgrading the cpu then?

  3. #3
    Bows out! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hopefully somewhere less backstabby
    Posts
    28,789
    Thanks
    3,203
    Thanked
    4,456 times in 3,442 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Quote Originally Posted by davidcrofter View Post
    As above, thinking of upgrading my system from a G0 Stepping Q6600 to a Q9650 that I can pick up for just short of £230.

    Any opinions on if this sounds a decent upgrade as I have the Q6600 overclocked @3.1ghz - what could I expect to get from the upgraded chip on air??

    The reason I really am upgrading is my Gigabyte Motherboard has trouble holding the overlock everytime I restart the computer it is a guess as to whether the overclock has stuck ... seems a problem with this particular board.

    thanks
    dc.
    Perhaps your overclock is just unstable and needs tweaking?!

    I assume that your CPU at stock speeds is fine??

    Try upping the volts to the CPU and use 25 iterations of Intel Burn Test and 2 hours of OCCT blend to test for stability at a minimum.

    Also upping the volts to the RAM and relaxing the timings may also help too. Don't use the SPD settings but use manual settings instead. Sometimes the motherboard will run the RAM at the wrong voltage settings and timings. Also make sure you have the proper divider setting as you maybe running your RAM at too high a speed.

    Heat maybe another issue and I would check the temperatures of the CPU too.

    If this all fails have you tried replacing the CMOS battery and updating the BIOS to the latest stable version??

    Also what is your PSU model and rating?? A weak PSU may not be able to handle an overclocked Q6600.

    I would get a replacement motherboard if this all fails.


    Those despicable Elk,stealing the pond weed!

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    508
    Thanks
    21
    Thanked
    18 times in 17 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Hi Cat-The-Fifth.
    Yes done all that mate, the overclock is solid but unfortunately when my machine is switched on and off and sometimes just restarted the overclock doesn't stick. Basically the settings that are set in the bios (memory timings and voltage, cpu volts and multi) are all taken except the CPU clock speed which runs @2.4ghz. PC boots as normal and doesn't reset or anything - only way around it is powering down and taking the battery out for a few minutes and rebooting.

    Seems to be a pretty well documented problem with the Gigabyte P35C-DS3R boards as other people have the exact same problem.

    Edit: also posted earlier about when I boot up with my 1TB WD My Book External Hard Drive attached the pc resets to default but in this instance the PC detects the hard drive and then restarts @ default setting ... It is just a CRAP board and has put me right off Gigabyte.

  5. #5
    jim
    jim is offline
    HEXUS.clueless jim's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Location: Location:
    Posts
    11,348
    Thanks
    606
    Thanked
    1,590 times in 1,264 posts
    • jim's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z
      • CPU:
      • i5 2500K @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Corsair Vengeance LP
      • Storage:
      • 1TB Sandisk SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • ASUS GTX 970
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX650
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Fortress FT03
      • Operating System:
      • 8.1 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2716DG
      • Internet:
      • 10 Mbps ADSL

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    I've heard about this problem before with Gigabyte boards, as you mentioned.

    As Cat said have you flashed the BIOS? I seem to recall that those problems on some Gigabyte boards (not sure if it's yours particularly) were fixed by a BIOS update.

  6. #6
    Bows out! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hopefully somewhere less backstabby
    Posts
    28,789
    Thanks
    3,203
    Thanked
    4,456 times in 3,442 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    I would go for a new motherboard personally.


    Those despicable Elk,stealing the pond weed!

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    508
    Thanks
    21
    Thanked
    18 times in 17 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Yeah the latest official bios (seems to be a beta version but don't fancy trying that). It really is very poor that Gigabyte whilst offering plenty of features and a rock stable product cannot get the basics of remembering the overclocked setting ... I mean that is the sole purpose I bought this board to overclock.

    Oh well might have to just make sure I don't restart the PC too often.!! Once I get this overclock to stick.

  8. #8
    radix lecti dave87's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    England
    Posts
    12,806
    Thanks
    657
    Thanked
    931 times in 634 posts
    • dave87's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus
      • CPU:
      • i5 3470k under Corsair H80 WC
      • Memory:
      • 8gb DDR3
      • Storage:
      • 240gb SSD + 120gb SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus HD7950
      • PSU:
      • XFX 600w Modular
      • Case:
      • Lian Li PC-A05FNB + Acoustipack
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2x Dell S2309W (1920x1080)
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity Option 2

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    How much ram have you got? If it were me I'd get a new board and some more/better RAM.


    I've got the DFI P35-T2RS based on the i35 chipset from intel. My Q6600 is at 3.1ghz and I have yet to find any need to push it any further

  9. #9
    Ultra-Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Monton, Greater Manchester
    Posts
    250
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked
    9 times in 9 posts
    • sjbuck's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit X38 Quad GT with watercooled VRMs
      • CPU:
      • E6600 @ 3.6Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Corsair 4-4-4-12
      • Storage:
      • RAID0 - 2x OCZ Solids, 1 x 74GB Raptor, 2x2x400GB Samsung, 1.5TB Synology 207+
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX GTX295 :)
      • PSU:
      • Hyper 880W PSU,(Was 480Watt Tagan (Powering ALL this!))
      • Case:
      • Silverstone Full Case with 'Loft cooled' External Koolance Exos 2 Water Cooling
      • Operating System:
      • XP/V64/2008
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 30"
      • Internet:
      • Be 24Mbps (15Mbps/2Mbps in reality)

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    How will a new CPU fix this? A new motherboard is the obvious (and much cheaper choice)

    Additionally : the Q6600 will perform at similar levels to the Q9650 once properly overclocked, I've had mine at 3.6Ghz for yonks, it'll run anything, to be honest it was fine at 3.2Ghz, but what the heck

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    508
    Thanks
    21
    Thanked
    18 times in 17 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Well obviously a new CPU is not going to fix the problems with the dodgy Gigashyte Motherboard ... what I really should have said is I am removing my motherboard and replacing it with something else, I also plan to change my thermtaltake V1 heatsink while I am at it - so is it I good idea maybe at this point to upgrade the Q6600 to (what I thought was a bargain £220) Q9650??

    Edit yeah I know the Q6600 will overclock to 3.4-3.6 but in doing so it means that all fans have to be set to full blast - which imho defeats the purpose of chasing that .2-.4 ghz. A9650 would do 3-6 - 3.8 quite easily I believe.

  11. #11
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    36
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    try to upgrade the bios, anyway you don't have much to loose.

  12. #12
    Bows out! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hopefully somewhere less backstabby
    Posts
    28,789
    Thanks
    3,203
    Thanked
    4,456 times in 3,442 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Why don't you just get a new motherboard?? I would save the £220 towards a better upgrade like a Core i7,Core i5 or whatever AMD has down the line in a year or two. With the price of the processors,motherboards and DDR3 dropping it seems the logical choice.

    TBH you can always run your Q6600 at 3.2ghz or so if you want to run it cooler. BTW an application which starts struggling with a Q6600 at these clockspeeds means that even a 3.6ghz Q6600 or Q9650 will not make much of a difference.


    Those despicable Elk,stealing the pond weed!

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    6,547
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    243 times in 205 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    I can't see how the Q9650 can justify a £230 price tag to be honest. What are you expecting out of a new CPU? You'll notice the difference for things like video encoding with applications where SSE4 is supported, but chances are, you won't notice the difference for most games/applications.

  14. #14
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    42
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts
    • rkingb's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P43
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 3.1GHz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Geil DDR2 6400
      • Storage:
      • 640GB WD SATA2
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX 8800GTS
      • Case:
      • CM590 modded
      • Operating System:
      • XP Pro X64

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    I agree with all the others that you should replace the motherboard. I went through a similar situation recently, and after reading reviews on almost every site I could find on Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, Biostar etc found that there is little to choose between any of them in terms of quality v overclocking v price performance.
    Ended up buying MSI as I got a good deal!
    With i7 or Phenom II now in the mainstream a Q9650 doesn't seem to make any sense as you'll still have the same bios problems.

  15. #15
    mutantbass head Lee H's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    M28, Manchester
    Posts
    14,204
    Thanks
    337
    Thanked
    671 times in 580 posts
    • Lee H's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Z370 Carbon Gaming
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7 8700K Unlocked CPU
      • Memory:
      • 16 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 LPX
      • Storage:
      • 250GB 960 EVO + a few more drives
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 6GB Palit GTX 1060 Dual
      • PSU:
      • Antec Truepower 750W Modular Blue
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T White Edition
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 PRO
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" Asus MX279H & 24" Acer 3D GD245HQ + the 3D glasses
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Quote Originally Posted by dave87 View Post
    I've got the DFI P35-T2RS based on the i35 chipset from intel. My Q6600 is at 3.1ghz and I have yet to find any need to push it any further
    I've found that the DFI IP35 and IP45 boards are fantastic and I can even get a good overclock out of the Q6600 on these boards without messing with the voltages

    I keep saying I'm going to ramp my overclock down a bit as I hardly use the PC now as I've no web access so I can't play my games as often as I would like.

  16. #16
    Senior[ish] Member Singh400's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    2,931
    Thanks
    136
    Thanked
    310 times in 247 posts

    Re: Q6600 > q9650

    Quote Originally Posted by davidcrofter View Post
    As above, thinking of upgrading my system from a G0 Stepping Q6600 to a Q9650 that I can pick up for just short of £230.

    Any opinions on if this sounds a decent upgrade as I have the Q6600 overclocked @3.1ghz - what could I expect to get from the upgraded chip on air??

    The reason I really am upgrading is my Gigabyte Motherboard has trouble holding the overlock everytime I restart the computer it is a guess as to whether the overclock has stuck ... seems a problem with this particular board.

    thanks
    dc.
    Q9650 will be uselss without a good board. I'd upgrade the board personally.

    Also, your thread title reads Q6600 is greater than Q9560. I assume you meant Q9650 is greater than Q6600. I like to nit-pick

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Q9650 vs Q9550
    By Greenbandit in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 13-11-2008, 11:42 AM
  2. Some Q6600 & RAM overclock queries
    By Crossbow in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-10-2008, 12:13 AM
  3. Q6600 "Guaranteed overclock" editions!
    By Richdog in forum SHOPPING AND CLASSIFIEDS
    Replies: 66
    Last Post: 13-09-2008, 02:48 PM
  4. Replies: 28
    Last Post: 10-04-2008, 08:34 PM
  5. Q6600 owners... what is your VID?
    By graysky in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 23-09-2007, 12:58 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •