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    Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Hi all,

    just wondering if you have any ideas about this. I am using a Gigabyte GM-M6800 optical mouse, coupled with a Razer ExactMat. I've had this for a while but only recently, I've noticed that when I lift the mouse off the mat to move, then the cursor begins to wobble/shake. When the mouse is replaced then its fine, as is tracking movement without lifting.

    I've tried both sides of the mat (Speed and precision) and both exhibit this behaviour. If I just use the mouse on the desk though, it seems fine. So whats wrong with the mat??? I seem to remember having this last year, but cant remember what I did to rectify it?

    Just gets a bit annoying in FPS games is all. Any tips would be welcome

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    what happens if the room is pitch black ?

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Could it just be due to the fact that you hand isn't perfectly still when you lift it coupled with a maybe higher than normal tracking height ?

    The greater height should also amplify any minute movements due to a greater angle etc.

    Also since the mousepad is a precision one, maybe the mouse is better able to read any changes in the pad's surface as opposed to a desk ?

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    My Logitech G9 does the same thing you are describing, i don't know who lifts their mouse up to use it though...

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Mine was fine (the exact same combo)

    Although the Gigabyte mouse is a pile of the proverbial...

    I'm back on my A4-Tech X750F, 'cos the gigabyte kept having middle click issues...
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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    vdbswong's spot on the money. my copperhead mouse does the same thing. the better the lazer usually the higher off the mat it will track.

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    I have found no problem with the gigabyte Ghost M8000 mouse, feels just as good as my logitech G5 and a G9 I tried. My hands are too big to use smaller mice like the razer

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by GoNz0 View Post
    what happens if the room is pitch black ?
    Tried, and no difference I'm afraid.

    Quote Originally Posted by vdbswong View Post
    Could it just be due to the fact that you hand isn't perfectly still when you lift it coupled with a maybe higher than normal tracking height ? The greater height should also amplify any minute movements due to a greater angle etc. Also since the mousepad is a precision one, maybe the mouse is better able to read any changes in the pad's surface as opposed to a desk ?
    The lift off that I am doing is only about one cm before wobbling, so I wouldnt have thought this to be the sole contributing factor, but the rest makes a lot of sense. Just seems odd, as it would have been permanently like that from the start and all the time?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterStoba View Post
    My Logitech G9 does the same thing you are describing, i don't know who lifts their mouse up to use it though...
    Thanks for the input - just seems odd that it has resurfaced recently... Not sure what else to try - might have a go at chucking it on another computer to see what happens.
    Its not as thougth I am lifting it several feet, just a cm or so - when moving the mouse back to centre again - to say carry on panning in a direction in a game for example - surely I cant be the only one who does this...

    EDIT - really confused now - in the few minutes since posting the reply above (ie. Playing with the mouse to find the lift off distance I have, it seems to be fine again - thought I was messing with the DPI button at the time, trying to switch DPI on the desk and then the mat, to see if it made any difference... Well it does seem to have now - so its got to be the mouse? Or some oddity about how it recalibrates when switching? I dont know enought about it tbh - but it is a bit odd. Not sure if I want to try and make it not work again, just to be able to reproduce the steps to fix it!
    Last edited by jonathan_phang; 11-04-2009 at 08:20 PM. Reason: WTH!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan_phang View Post
    The lift off that I am doing is only about one cm before wobbling, so I wouldnt have thought this to be the sole contributing factor, but the rest makes a lot of sense. Just seems odd, as it would have been permanently like that from the start and all the time?
    You mean it only starts wobbling at a certain height ? Or it wobbles from lift-off up to a certain height at which point anything higher doesn't register ?

    My theory would probably be most likely if it were the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan_phang View Post
    EDIT - really confused now - in the few minutes since posting the reply above (ie. Playing with the mouse to find the lift off distance I have, it seems to be fine again - thought I was messing with the DPI button at the time, trying to switch DPI on the desk and then the mat, to see if it made any difference... Well it does seem to have now - so its got to be the mouse? Or some oddity about how it recalibrates when switching? I dont know enought about it tbh - but it is a bit odd. Not sure if I want to try and make it not work again, just to be able to reproduce the steps to fix it!
    How do you mean with regards to switching DPI ? As in it can be only be seen at higher DPI's ?

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    hmmm did a test with my copperhead. placed it on pencils to prop it up about a cm, then taped them too the mouse. tryed all 4 dpi settings and still no wobble at all, but the mouse could still be used to move the pointer onscreen. so it seems the wobble is just movement from your hand, and that this movement is being exaggerated by the increased sensitivity to movement in the higher DPI's.

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by vdbswong View Post
    You mean it only starts wobbling at a certain height ? Or it wobbles from lift-off up to a certain height at which point anything higher doesn't register ? How do you mean with regards to switching DPI ? As in it can be only be seen at higher DPI's ?
    It only started wobbling at a certain height. Above that, it would still register, but be wobbling. The DPI switching was regards to a button in the mouse that switched between 800 and 1600 DPI. The wobbling would actually be seen on either setting, though I cant remember if it was more pronounced at the higher setting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyar View Post
    hmmm did a test with my copperhead. placed it on pencils to prop it up about a cm, then taped them too the mouse. tryed all 4 dpi settings and still no wobble at all, but the mouse could still be used to move the pointer onscreen. so it seems the wobble is just movement from your hand, and that this movement is being exaggerated by the increased sensitivity to movement in the higher DPI's.
    Thanks for trying it out -but I tried the same before, to see if it was my hand shake and after resting it 1cm up, it still wobbled... It just seems weird, as it seems to come and go, and most of the theories seem to be negated by the fact that it works fine now. Just annoying more that anything else, so trying to figure it out in case it comes back - Or maybe I should just get a better mouse

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    The apparant resolution of the mouse pad changes with distance (put your eyes against a chain link fence - as you get closer the apparent distance between the chain changes) and this is detected by the mouse as movement. It'll be random.

    But as it doesn't affect normal mouse operation, and the mouse is designed to be operated flat against a surface, is it really worth worrying about?
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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    The apparant resolution of the mouse pad changes with distance (put your eyes against a chain link fence - as you get closer the apparent distance between the chain changes) and this is detected by the mouse as movement. It'll be random. But as it doesn't affect normal mouse operation, and the mouse is designed to be operated flat against a surface, is it really worth worrying about?
    Thanks for the explanation Peter, appreciated. There's no point me taking this any further as it seems to have fixed itself, but to answer your question, its worth worrying about it you do lift the mouse a bit - am I the only one that feels that they have to move the mouse to the centre of the mat once they have reached near the edge?

    I get the feeling several people thing I am trying to use the mouse hovering 3 foot in the air... But alls well that end well... just hope it doesnt rear its head again.

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    Lol, i do get what you mean, but personally no, i don't quite have that problem (as often as you anyways) since i use quite a high sensitivity so i cover the screen with essentially movement of the wrist .

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    I dont particularly like the mouse to be too highly sensitive, mainly in games, but especially for just browsing, and on a 24" screen, there is a fair amount of real estate to cover, which is why I guess I seem to lift more often. I just need to get more leet

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    Re: Wobbling mouse cursor when lifted

    haha, once you get leet, you will find that your mouse wont deviate more than 2cm in each direction from your centred point. it is all in the wrist and finger tips.

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