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    Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Lo dudes.

    I needed a new large HDD for backing up to, and I quite like DeathStars now, as I've not had one fail for along long time.

    Scan had a dead cheap deal on Today Only on Monday, so I did it. Very pleased too.

    Here's the HD Tachometer results


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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    I checked performance on storage review before buying & indeed the Hitachi did very well overall despite "only" 16Mb cache.
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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    is that the ZK1000.B ones? because the lower capacity ones get about the same results, if not exactly the same in some areas

    edit:

    test run - and zak must be doing something to his drives, his sequentials are faster - maybe its his partition theory, or mine haven't been defragged properly and are 1/2 full, heres my results.



    still faster than the samsung F1 though. so the awesomeness of these cheapo drives extebnds through the size range.
    Last edited by stevie lee; 11-06-2009 at 08:10 PM. Reason: adding results for the pimpage of hitachi

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    The result looks quite like my ecogreen F2, except the access time is way lower of course.
    Difference between different drives are minimal when they're not multi-tasking. My 5400RPM F2 lags like hell when I have 8-12 different programs each accessing a couple hundeds of KB/s a second.
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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Wouldn't touch a Sammy F1, reading to many stories of failures and experienced a 3 week old drive failure myself on a 2.5" F1.

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Ive had 3 samsung HD's fails in 18 months, not cool. Fortunately their RMA service is pretty good, but thats not the point.

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Quote Originally Posted by Flewis View Post
    Ive had 3 samsung HD's fails in 18 months, not cool. Fortunately their RMA service is pretty good, but thats not the point.
    I bought every single brand (about half a dozen) and all of them give me a fail drive or two every year, regardless of it is a desktop or enterprise class drive. Modern >1TB HDDs are just not reliable at all...
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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    My Sammy F1 seems faster than those Hitachi drives (please excuse burst speed - I'm port limited):



    But blimey, those figures are nice, who needs a raptor?

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    People who benefits more random access than sequential transfers? Without paying over the odds for SSD. Seriously, I am happy with modern 1TB drives for storage, but for an OS drive, I don't perceive a shift a 50MB/sec shift from 80MB/sec to 130MB sec as much as a random access decrease of 5ms.

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    I think i'll go for a non Sammy 1tb drive next..i have about 6 250gb drives cluttering up my case and psu.

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Although the low price of the Death star is attractive, I'd feel uncomfortable about buying one.

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    People who benefits more random access than sequential transfers? Without paying over the odds for SSD. Seriously, I am happy with modern 1TB drives for storage, but for an OS drive, I don't perceive a shift a 50MB/sec shift from 80MB/sec to 130MB sec as much as a random access decrease of 5ms.
    Access time is also improving though - look at the 1TB access times for both Zak and myself, compared to Stevie Lee - there's that 5ms improvement in access time for you

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Access time is also improving though - look at the 1TB access times for both Zak and myself, compared to Stevie Lee - there's that 5ms improvement in access time for you
    That is probably not very accurate, the value can be worse whether you use it as an OS drive or not.


    That is what you call good access time (very old Fujitsu 15k disk)

    Just get a fast 15krpm drive (or SSD) for OS and 5400rpm drive for the rest.
    Apart from the SAS card being slightly expensive, old 15k drives are fast and is extremely cheap compared to SSD.
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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    I've never had a hard drive die on me. I have 2 Samsung harddrives in my pc that have been running for ages!

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Here are my F1 and Hitachi drives.
    The Sammy runs about 5-10 degress cooler than the Hitachis.

    F1 500gb





    Hitachi 640gb



    Hitachi 750gb



    Hitachi 1tb

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    Re: Cheap Hitachi 1TB drive from Scan vs Sammy F1

    Quote Originally Posted by arthurleung View Post
    Just get a fast 15krpm drive (or SSD) for OS and 5400rpm drive for the rest.
    Apart from the SAS card being slightly expensive, old 15k drives are fast and is extremely cheap compared to SSD.
    I am not convinced that it's worth going for those 15k RPM drive these days when I see this: http://www.storagereview.com/php/ben...1=345&devCnt=2

    Admittedly, I've not used any 15k RPM drive to compare with a Velociraptor. I have however used a a number of 10k RPM SCSI drive, and for all the lower random access, it did not always translate to better user experience compared to relatively newer 7.2k RPM drives.

    I can't see the Velociraptor being significantly behind (if at all) in a single user environment, and I also think that it'll be a hassle to flog those SCSI gear once SSD become financially viable (for the enthusiast mass).

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