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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    Quote Originally Posted by sammorris View Post
    All we need to see now is if they can be overclocked
    Overclockersclub got an Athlon II X2 250 to 3.54GHz. Not remarkable, but without an unlocked multiplier there's only ever going to be so much you can do for a CPU...

    p.s. Don't knock the Athlon XPs - I've got my 2600+ stable at 2340MHz...

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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    In which case I stand corrected, I can't think of a CPU that overclocked as poorly as the 7750/7850
    3.54Ghz for an X2 250 is 18%. Acceptable, but considering the E5 series is capable of almost 60% (actually hitting it with the E5200), once again, AMD are firmly in the 'stock settings' category.

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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    I have seen plenty of reviews get the X2 250 to between 3.7ghz to 4ghz. Anyway the Phenom II X2 545 can be had for under £70 now too!


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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    For an end user on air cooling, stable in windows? There's a screenshot of superpi running, and then there's people actually saying it runs stable 24/7, and it has to be under an air cooler as well. Having to buy a watercooling kit for a budget processor invalidates the test IMO.

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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    The results are under air from what I read. Why would an X2 250 with a smaller die need water cooling when larger X4 processors can be overclocked on 3.5ghz+ on air?? The same goes with all the E5*** series overclocks too?? There are plenty of people who NEVER reach the 4ghz magically but "only" around 3.5ghz. The same goes with my E4300 and E4500 which overclocked far better than people who had later versions of the same CPUs and better motherboards.

    How many people actually test the overclocks they do properly?

    For instance this is what I do:
    1.)Run at least 12 hours each of the various OCCT suite tests individually
    2.)Run at least 12 hours each of the Orthos tests
    3.)Run a few hours of Linpack or IBT
    4.)Run at least 2 hours of the Crysis Benchmarking tool
    5.)Run 3DMark06 for at least an hour(have not got round to using Vantage yet due to the restrictive licensing agreement).

    I also make sure that the tests are done in a warm room so I can check stability at the upper end of the temperature range my system will be at.

    I would run the tests longer but IMHO the longest I could see myself maxing out the CPU would 10 hours max and I usually do not play any games for more than 2 to 4 hours. I should run the CPU+GPU tests longer but I am being a tad lazy there.

    The same goes with overclocking my GPU I look to run any stability tests for at least two to three hours.

    TBH,even these tests mean for longer durations at having the CPU at 100% would not be enough.


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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    Every site tests their overclocks differently, so to compare them scientifically, rather than extrapolate on what may or may not work, it's best to be as strict as possible to get a fair comparison. The AMD chips already start at pretty much 3Ghz sometimes over, the Intels do not - yet they achieve similar clock speeds, if not higher for the intels. Tests like yours are thorough, but some sites are very vague about how far they can genuinely overclock.

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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    Quote Originally Posted by sammorris View Post
    Tests like yours are thorough, but some sites are very vague about how far they can genuinely overclock.
    Yep,I agree with you. I think that simply booting into windows and running under an hour of tests is a tad pointless TBH. Sure, perhaps a CPU will be stable for most things still but if it is pushed too far there can be issues.

    With my HD4830 I could play Crysis Warhead for an hour plus but sometimes it crashed. Tried another testing programme and funnily enough there were artifacts the first one I used did not bring up. Reduced the clocks until there were no artifacts at all for hours and there were no crashes.

    TBH,it just shows how great modern budget processors are when we are even debating whether or not processors which cannot reach 3.5ghz are "crap"!


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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    Indeed. My work PC that sits next to me could happily run at 4Ghz if I wanted it to. or, I can run it fanless, along with the motherboard, and indeed the entire case :O

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    Re: AMD Athlon II X2 245

    The Athlon II X2 240 has been released at around £44:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-A...che-65W-Retail

    So basically now AMD has the following for around £100 and under:
    1.)2.8ghz Athlon II X2 240 ~£44
    2.)2.9ghz Athlon II X2 245 ~£50
    3.)3.0ghz Athlon II X2 250 ~ £56
    4.)3.0ghz Phenom II X2 545 ~ £68
    5.)3.1ghz Phenom II X2 550 ~ £75
    6.)2.6ghz Phenom II X3 710 ~ £88
    7.)2.5ghz Phenom II X3 705e ~ £93
    8.)2.8ghz Phenom II X3 720 ~ £92

    The last CPU is usually around the £100 to £110 but Ebuyer seems to have it cheap ATM.
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