Watercooling pointers

[Syd]

I'd reccomend getting your parts from a proper watercooling shop, WatercoolingUK or Chilled PC are generally cheapest.

Hi Peter Are Watercooling UK (and their attached forum) linked to Chilled PC ?

[PeterStoba]

Hi Peter Are Watercooling UK (and their attached forum) linked to Chilled PC ?

Watercooling UK and Chilled PC are two completely seperate businesses, websites and forums.

Also, the 18w will make more sense if you go with the better performing but more restrictive Apogee GTZ. If it is mounted on an anti vibration then it shouldn't make much differencce.

[piggin23]

I would also consider getting your equipment from these

http://www.candccentral.co.uk/

There service is second to none and they are very helpful.

[Syd]

Watercooling UK and Chilled PC are two completely seperate businesses, websites and forums.

Also, the 18w will make more sense if you go with the better performing but more restrictive Apogee GTZ. If it is mounted on an anti vibration then it shouldn't make much differencce.

Peter I have just had a thought What happens to the PSU if I put a 4x120 rad in the bottom

EDIT: It fits just fine I think having looked at other images.

I would also consider getting your equipment from these

http://www.candccentral.co.uk/

There service is second to none and they are very helpful.

Thanks for the pointer

[piggin23]

The psu sits on its side in a silverstone.
Have a look at the forum
http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/foru...splay.php?f=11
they have some very nice builds with TJ07's

A lot of people use 1x 360 & 1x 240 in these cases (side by side)

[Syd]

I have just worked out that in my new planned TJ07 build there will be 7 x 120mm fans (2 top 4 rad and 1 intake) as well as 2 x 92mm's. I currently have a 6 channel ZM-MFC1PLUS-BLACK

How can i control the speed of 4 120's on one 'knob' - I take it the Zalman won't have the guts ti run more than 1x120mm per channel. Another option is to have 2 controllers 1 for the 4 rad fans and another for the others. - quite like the idea of one of these:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Aqua-...5-Bay)-(53035)

Although I have been told they are a little form over function

[PeterStoba]

You could get some splitters to run two fans off one channel

[piggin23]

The specification of your controller says it will run 7 watts per channel.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=275

And depending on the fans you use (can be as little as 0.3 watt each) then you can join a few fans together and run them off the one channel.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=5312

http://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/foru...ead.php?t=2410

[Syd]

Great , that solves that one, now just gotta justify that pretty panel !!

[Syd]

Can you just tell me if I am missing anything on this checklist:

Swifttech GTZ Cpu Block
Laing DDc 18W Pump or Laing DDc 18w (revision 3.25) ?
XSPC Laing DDC Top with Reservoir
PA120.4
Tygon Tubing (4m)

Need to know what coolant is suggessted and also what size pipe/barbs I will need pls - that's the bit thats confused me!!!!

[piggin23]

I have personally used 1/2" fittings
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=401

with 7/16 tubing. This is tight to fit but will not come off. It is also a little less trouble to run inside a case than the 1/2" pipe.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=161

The laing DDC revision 3.25 has very little information shown on the web about it. I have used

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=181

This pump works extremely well with the XSPC top.

As for the radiator the one you have chosen is one of the best but you have to get some fans.

Also you have to get the correct fittings for the thermochill as it has 3/8 fittings. So if you use these you will not have a problem.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=544

As for coolant. I am using feser one (red) and it is breaking down and blocking up my system. In the next few weeks I am going to strip everything down and replace it with PrimoChill.

[PeterStoba]

Laing DDC 3.25 is slightly better, but the 3.2 is all that is needed really, not worth any more.

7/16 ID tubing and 1/2 barbs are the best combination, as piggin said.

Primochill coolant is alot better than feser, feser does this -




Or you can run some distilled water with pt nuke, g11 or a lump or coil of pure silver.

[watercooled]

Wow that's nasty. How do you get rid of it?

[piggin23]

Lots of hot water will wash it away.

As for the Laing DDC 3.25. It gives a slightly higher head pressure but the flow rate is decreased. As Syd is only running his CPU (and possibly his GPU in the future) the 18watt version will do the job.
Also I have read reports that the XSPC top is tight on the 3.25 and the motors have been burning out.

[Syd]

I have personally used 1/2" fittings
http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=401

with 7/16 tubing. This is tight to fit but will not come off. It is also a little less trouble to run inside a case than the 1/2" pipe.

(Does tygon in this size bend easily?)

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=161

The laing DDC revision 3.25 has very little information shown on the web about it. I have used

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=181


This pump works extremely well with the XSPC top.

(KK will do that)

As for the radiator the one you have chosen is one of the best but you have to get some fans.

(gonna run a brace of Noctua P12s)

Also you have to get the correct fittings for the thermochill as it has 3/8 fittings. So if you use these you will not have a problem.

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=544

As for coolant. I am using feser one (red) and it is breaking down and blocking up my system. In the next few weeks I am going to strip everything down and replace it with PrimoChill.

Laing DDC 3.25 is slightly better, but the 3.2 is all that is needed really, not worth any more.

7/16 ID tubing and 1/2 barbs are the best combination, as piggin said.

Primochill coolant is alot better than feser, feser does this -




Yuk

Or you can run some distilled water with pt nuke, g11 or a lump or coil of pure silver.

Which of those solutions will require the least maintenance?

And thanks again for all the help

EDIT: If I go for one of these http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Aqua-...5-Bay)-(53035)
I'm guessing it needs some kind of flow meter in the loop - do you have any recommendations?

&

Is there any advantage to me going for the: http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=433 Over the XPSC one?

I have not quite got my head round the ads and disads of Tops/resevoirs etc - infact im not sure what is a top??

[PeterStoba]

What is easiest to maintain? Distilled water and silver
Primochill is probably the best coloured coolant around atm, but it's up to you, you could just run distilled water and coloured hoses for the bling

The EK performs worse than the XSPC afaik, although the difference is minimum, the XSPC is cheaper

A top is a piece that goes ontop of the pump and alters the direction of the water (often from front in, front out, to top in, front out) and increases pressure and head, giving better performance.

For the flow meter, I am 99% sure that this will do the job fine, http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...oducts_id=1214

Just hook it up to the Aquaero, if you're not sure then email tom(at)chilledpc(dot)co(dot)uk and I am sure he will know