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    Hi all,

    I'm planning to build a new PC for my Dad and wondered if buying a solid state hard drive is a good idea. Or would the money be better spent on something else, maybe a faster processor? It'll be largely used for office, email and internet type stuff. Any advice really appreciated :-)

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Whats your budget, and is it only for office? If so i would reccomend:

    All from scan:
    Samsung F1 320GB single platter.
    Phenom II x2 550
    Amd mobo any of the 7xx range with onboard gfx.
    any DVD drive
    2x2GB pc 6400 ram
    antec 300 case for a nice look, any decent case as its your preference for looks.
    Silverpower 400w psu, good company.
    You can stick with stock cooler, or an aftermarket if you want it quieter.

    If anyone else can better this please do, only a quick tot up.
    I would say SSD's are not worth it, if your considering safety and reliability, maybe run a second drive exactly the same size, doing shadow copies?

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    An SSD wouldn't be far from necessary to tell you the truth. The cost of one is too high to be used in an office PC. What's your budget?
    Last edited by Blackmage; 18-07-2009 at 06:32 PM.

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Quote Originally Posted by testbreakdown View Post
    Hi all,

    I'm planning to build a new PC for my Dad and wondered if buying a solid state hard drive is a good idea. Or would the money be better spent on something else, maybe a faster processor? It'll be largely used for office, email and internet type stuff. Any advice really appreciated :-)

    Andy.
    SSD in an office PC!!!! It is a tad OTT TBH and a normal hard disk will do the job fine.

    This is what I would go for:

    AMD Athlon II X2 245 ~ £49

    http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

    Asus M3N78-VM Nvidia 8200 motherboard ~ £45

    http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

    OR

    Asus M3A76-CM 760G motherboard ~ £45

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...Board-VGA-HDCP

    The 8200 based motherboard has more useful connections on the backplate IMHO.

    4gb PC2-8500 DDR2 RAM ~ £34

    http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

    500 GB Western Digital WD5000AAKS ~ £38

    http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

    Coolermaster Elite 340 MicroATX Case with Coolermaster 460W PSU ~ £50

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coole...60W-PSU-Fitted

    Sony Lightscribe DVD writer ~ £17

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Sony-...ightscribe-OEM

    The total comes to around £274 including postage. You will also need to add one or two 120mm fans for cooling. This PC should be more than powerful enough for office work and internet.

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Thanks for the recommendations!

    Are SSD's not reliable yet then? I don't mind spending a bit more to get one if it's actually going to make a difference. Thinking around £500-£600 budget overall.

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Quote Originally Posted by testbreakdown View Post
    Thanks for the recommendations!

    Are SSD's not reliable yet then? I don't mind spending a bit more to get one if it's actually going to make a difference. Thinking around £500-£600 budget overall.
    It's not that their unreliable, it just they're so expensive. Does it have to include monitor?

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Quote Originally Posted by testbreakdown View Post
    Thanks for the recommendations!

    Are SSD's not reliable yet then? I don't mind spending a bit more to get one if it's actually going to make a difference. Thinking around £500-£600 budget overall.
    For high end work and high end gaming SSDs do make a difference but not for the purposes of the PC you assembling - it would be a colossal waste of money!

    The spec I have suggested will do the job under Vista or Windows 7 fine and you will need to add another £50 to £100 to the budget for an OS.

    If you do not mind running Windows 7 RC1 for a few months then you can get Windows 7 Home Premium for only £50 on pre-order:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/special/1645?ref=dotd&hp_deal=10

    I would put the rest of the money towards a nice 22" screen such as the following:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/22-De...680x1050-10001

    It has an E-IPS panel meaning deeper blacks and good viewing angles unlike the cheaper TN type panels.

    Also get a decent keyboard and mouse too.


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    Yep, that budget was for monitor and software if possible.

    OK, reckon I'll drop the SSD then thanks.

    Is it worth getting a lower-spec motherboard plus a cheap graphics card, rather than on-board graphics do you think? That monitor looks really nice :-)

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Cheap as chips, I recently gave my dad his first proper computer (my old Athlon 3200/2gb/80gb IDE) - he'd been attempting to use an Win ME machine his missus bought from PC world 7 years ago (against my advice), wouldn't even recognise a USB device despite having 4 ports on the front!

    He's learnt how to use Gmail & Google. Poor sod thinks that Google is the 'internet'. At 65, if I can learn how to navigate the equivalent of the internet I'll be happy. Go dad!

    He thinks it is the best thing since sliced bread. Using my very old 7800gs, it can render any page lightning fast, and he can multi-task without an issue.
    "Don't wanna see your face, don't wanna hear your voice . . ."

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Excellent, I'm hoping for a similar story :-) Hats off to all the Dads out there who like to give it a go.

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Quote Originally Posted by testbreakdown View Post
    Yep, that budget was for monitor and software if possible.

    OK, reckon I'll drop the SSD then thanks.

    Is it worth getting a lower-spec motherboard plus a cheap graphics card, rather than on-board graphics do you think? That monitor looks really nice :-)
    AMD Onboard solutions are very good, can do most things their basic standalone cards can.

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    Re: Dad PC advice

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    If you do not mind running Windows 7 RC1 for a few months then you can get Windows 7 Home Premium for only £50 on pre-order:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/special/1645?ref=dotd&hp_deal=10
    Or £45 from Dixons: http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/prod...nt=hp-top-win7

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteGiant View Post
    Cheap as chips, I recently gave my dad his first proper computer (my old Athlon 3200/2gb/80gb IDE) - he'd been attempting to use an Win ME machine his missus bought from PC world 7 years ago (against my advice), wouldn't even recognise a USB device despite having 4 ports on the front!

    He's learnt how to use Gmail & Google. Poor sod thinks that Google is the 'internet'. At 65, if I can learn how to navigate the equivalent of the internet I'll be happy. Go dad!

    He thinks it is the best thing since sliced bread. Using my very old 7800gs, it can render any page lightning fast, and he can multi-task without an issue.
    Lol, your dad sounds much like mine. The other day he called me down because the internet was broken on my brother's user - the home page was not google, and he did not know how to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmage View Post
    AMD Onboard solutions are very good, can do most things their basic standalone cards can.
    Fair enough, I just thought the difference in price wouldn't be that much. That ASUS board recommended by CAT-THE-FIFTH looks like very good value though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteGiant View Post
    At 65, if I can learn how to navigate the equivalent of the internet I'll be happy. Go dad!
    I resemble that remark. I'm a Dad, and not that far from 65. And you know what, there were computers being used in business even before I went to Uni (OK they were the size of a planet and looked after by men in white coats, but...) to do a degree in Maths & Computer Science.

    OK so some older people might have had their heads in the sand over the last 20 years, or are scared of technology, but there are also 80 year olds doing all sorts of things with their computers. Reaching 60 doesn't make you brain dead - some people were like that all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testbreakdown View Post
    Fair enough, I just thought the difference in price wouldn't be that much. That ASUS board recommended by CAT-THE-FIFTH looks like very good value though.
    For the price I would go for the Asus M3N78-VM which has the Nvidia 8200 series chipset over the Asus M3A76-CM which has the AMD 760G chipset. The 8200 has better video acceleration features over the 760G.

    Asus M3N78-VM

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