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could anyone tell me if this processor:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-P...MHz-85W-Retail
would fit into this amd motherboard, not familar with amd stuff
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-SATA-RAID-ATX
the motherboard says that it supports 2000mhz fsb where as the processor has 4000mhz
thankls
It will work. Like you said; you are putting a pretty good processor in a board that is not going to get the best out of it.
It'll work, just not as well as you might like, but I don't think thats a very highly recommended board. I wouldn't buy it unless you already have it.
From
http://uk.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ulvijSunFYJp6a2i
i dont see any am3 chips
these do as i have used them recently
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...-SATA-RAID-ATX
and
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...Board-VGA-HDCP
just a small point the asus has no floppy so its a slip stream job for raid and XP ;)
Paul
cheers guys will just stick to the intel 775 chips sets
I would say sticking to 775 is a mistake at this point..
Check out these budget boards instead
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-RAID-uATX-VGA
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-uATX-VGA-HDMI
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...Board-VGA-HDCP
hey i already linked that last one :P
seriously staffsMike is correct
My Apologies :)
I stand corrected; you're right, it probably wouldn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by s3ds
Yep,all of these will do the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by staffsMike
If the OP wants to do any overclocking I would go for this motherboard:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...D3-Motherboard
Don't go for the earlier revision 1 of the Gigabyte MA770-UD3.
i just need somthing that altogather will cost about £220 MAX exclusing keyboard, mouse,Quote:
Originally Posted by staffsMike
The chip in question is a black edition so surely overclocking is a minorissue being an unlocked multi..
I meant to say that the Gigabyte 770 was better for a big overclock as it has more options in the BIOS and has functioning ACC too.
Also to the OP what is the PC being used for BTW?? An Athlon II may do the job too!!
For instance:
Athlon II X2 240 ~£43
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=1050342
Asus M3N78-VM ~ £49
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...-RAID-uATX-VGA
OR
Sapphire PE-AM2RS740G PURE Element ~ £31
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Sapph...-RAID-mATX-VGA
Has the SB700 southbridge so the HyperTransport should run at full speed.
2gb DDR2 ~ £26
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/2GB-(...d-CAS-4-4-4-12
Samsung 320gb F1 ~£34
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/320-G...MB-Cache-89-ms
Coolermaster Elite 340 with 460w PSU ~ £50
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coole...60W-PSU-Fitted
DVD rewriter ~ £17
http://www.scan.co.uk/Index.aspx?NT=1-0-7-381.489-0
120mm fan ~ £4
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/120mm...value-case-fan
The total comes to around £205 with the 740G motherboard or £223 with the 8200 motherboard.
what about a processor like this:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-P...ficient-Retail
Don't see the point. What is this PC for and is it on a strict budget?
I would not buy it as it is relatively slow and consumes a lot of power too.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaneria
Either go for a dual core Athlon II X2,or the dual core Phenom II X2 550 or a triple core Phenom II X3 720.
The X3 720 is available from Ebuyer for £92 delivered:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159071
If you are not overclocking the X2 545 is clocked only 100mhz slower than the X2 550 and is £68 delivered:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168972
The Athlon II X2 will be fine for a general purpose PC and even one used for light gaming. Things like word processing and internet don't need a very fast processor. Go for the Phenom II X2 or Phenom II X3 if you are doing heavier gaming and stuff like video encoding.
the problem is that i would love to go for the phenom II for £68, however i would need to get an am3 motherboard as the processor is really meant for that, which are not cheap, considering i'm on a strict butget of £220 max, becuase its only used for the office for email, browsing and some graphic designing.
Basicly you have AM2 AM2+ and AM3
The AM2 and AM2+ sockets are the same ( the AM3 is Similar )
The AM2 and AM2+ are DDR2 and the AM3 are DDR3
Atm the am3 chips will work in am2/am2+ and am3 (Duel memory controller for DDR2 and DDR3)
The older boards would have been AM2 then had a bios update to AM2+ some even AM3
Newer boards were made for AM2+ and will accept older AM2 and AM3 chips (with a bios update)
AM3 Boards will not accept AM2+ or AM2 chips
The best boards ATM IMHO are the AMD chipset 740 / 760 / 780 / 790
The ones that i posted i have used with a AM3 chip (the gigabyte one is the cheapest)
The build I suggested will do the job fine. The Athlon II X2 240 is probably faster than all dual core Pentium 4 processors. The AMD motherboards for under £50 have much better integrated graphics and a better feature set usually than their Intel alternatives too.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaneria
Like the previous poster said AMD CPUs have the memory controller in the CPU and all current AM3 CPUs will work with both DDR2 and DDR3 RAM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
would the processor you suggested earlier : http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-P...MHz-85W-Retail
fit into the motherboard you also suggested the sapphire one the £30 one? http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Sapph...-RAID-mATX-VGA
basically the processor i listed above, i just want to compare it to the core2duo 2.8ghz, which would be better for surfing webbrowsing and bit of photoediting
It should be fine in theory but I would not go any higher than the 550 and certainly I would not overclock. The X2 550BE is faster than a 2.8ghz Core2 in most cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaneria
Also the processor will be massively overspecced for what you are doing. An Athlon II X2 250 or even the 240 will do the job fine and you will NOT notice much difference! Why??
Web surfing and word processing are more dependent on the amount of RAM you have and hard disk speed.Even photo editing needs to have enough RAM and a decent speed hard disk. The hard disk I specced you is a single platter one which is quite fast for the price.
If anything if you are using Vista the faster onboard graphics and better video decoding abilities of the sub £50 AMD motherboards will actually count for more in real use than a faster processor. Don't skimp on the other bits of the computer as it is no point in the end.
thanks for the info,
however the reason why i slightly overspeced it was becuase in the future i might use it as a standalone server in the office or possibly use it at home, just a bit of future proofing, if there is such a thing! lol
For a server a dual core Athlon II X2 will be overspecced too!! Currently at home we use an old XP2800 single core processor for this purpose.
If you're mostly web-browsing, word-processing, and light photo-editing, you would probably be fine with the new Sempron 140 (single core), which is avaialble for ~ £27 at both scan and ebuyer. Word Processing and Web Browsing are pretty much limited by your typing / reading speed and your ISPs connection speed, so the processor you have make very little difference for that. Photo editing might benefit from a dual-core depending on the program you use - but I've run Paint Shop Pro 10 happily on a moble Celeron, and use Gimp and Paint.Net on my old Athlon 2600+, so the new Sempron will definitely cope acceptably. It also has much lower power requirements, so it would be ideal for a file server in the future.
This can be coupled with pretty much any of the boards suggested - if you're not going to game at all one based on the 740G chipset should be absolutely fine (something like this Gigabyte). That's only £70 in total, leaving you plenty of money for either 2 or 4 GB of DDR2 RAM (for ~ £40), along with a big hard drive, a DVD-RW and a nice mATX case to hold it all :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
hi mate, what did you mean by that?
thanks
I don't see any detailed support list on the Sapphire website but they do say the Phenom II and Athlon II are compatible on the product page.I would check with Scan first before making any purchase.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaneria
Also what scaryjim says is correct. I am currently using a Pentium M 1.7ghz laptop with 1gb of RAM and I usually run PSP10,Paint.Net,GIMP and ImageJ on it fine. I also tend to have multiple pdfs,word documents,powerpoint documents,and a few tabs of firefox open too and even a window of Paint.Net open and everything moves along fine. I am using XP though. A dual core Athlon X2 is much faster than my old notebook and many people at work use slower processors with 1gb to 2gb of RAM and they multitask too like I do. Even el cheapo processors nowadays are quite speedy.
ive decided, im gonna get these 2:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-P...MHz-85W-Retail
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asus-...Board-VGA-HDCP
@s3ds: Sorry just wanted to say the sockets aren't all the same - an AM2(+) chip won't physically fit into an AM3 socket.
Quote:
Originally Posted by watercooled
Thank you I have edited my oringinal post
I did put AM3 Boards will not accept AM2+ or AM2 chips
But had wrongly assumed the sockets were the same because the AM3 chip fits the AM2+ board
I have built a couple with AM3 in an AM2+ board but have yet to do one with a AM3 board
Paul