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    £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Just the PC hardware itself.

    I don't know whether to go for a budget AM3 system (eg X2 Dual Core 250) or a better AM2 system like the X2 7850. Is it in fact better? i'm just guessing.
    Or an intel 5200.

    So any tips on what parts to go for?

    thanks.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Not sure if you needed a case as you said “Just the PC hardware itself.” so hows this:

    Intel Pentium Dual-Core, E6300, Wolfdale, 2.80 GHz
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...tio-65W-Retail
    Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...67-SATA-II-ATX
    512MB XFX HD 4850
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512MB...VI-XXX-EDITION
    4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066 < cheaper then 800
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-(...S-5-6-6-18-EPP
    400W Corsair PSU
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    640 GB Western Digital WD6400AAKS
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    SATA DVD RW
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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Yeah i did need a case, but something like the Akasa zen or coolermaster for £30 or so should do the trick thanks.

    I've been tinkering too, how does this system compare to the one you listed?

    Coolermaster Black Elite 330 Case With eXtreme Power 460W PSU
    Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 770 Socket AM2+ Motherboard
    Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 HyperX Memory
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 2.7 GHz Socket AM2 2MB Cache Retail Box Processor
    Sony AD-5240S 24x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA Black Bare Drive
    XFX HD 4870 512MB DDR5 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card
    Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache

    Total £356 from ebuyer.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Quote Originally Posted by sswats View Post
    Yeah i did need a case, but something like the Akasa zen or coolermaster for £30 or so should do the trick thanks.

    I've been tinkering too, how does this system compare to the one you listed?

    Coolermaster Black Elite 330 Case With eXtreme Power 460W PSU
    Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 770 Socket AM2+ Motherboard
    Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 HyperX Memory
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 2.7 GHz Socket AM2 2MB Cache Retail Box Processor
    Sony AD-5240S 24x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA Black Bare Drive
    XFX HD 4870 512MB DDR5 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card
    Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache

    Total £356 from ebuyer.
    The eXtreme Power is not a good model by CM plus it only has one PCI-e connecter the HD 4870 needs two.

    Other then that it don't look bad.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Quote Originally Posted by sswats View Post
    Yeah i did need a case, but something like the Akasa zen or coolermaster for £30 or so should do the trick thanks.

    I've been tinkering too, how does this system compare to the one you listed?

    Coolermaster Black Elite 330 Case With eXtreme Power 460W PSU
    Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 770 Socket AM2+ Motherboard
    Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 HyperX Memory
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 7750 2.7 GHz Socket AM2 2MB Cache Retail Box Processor
    Sony AD-5240S 24x DVD±RW DL Internal SATA Black Bare Drive
    XFX HD 4870 512MB DDR5 Dual DVI HDTV Out PCI-E Graphics Card
    Western Digital WD6400AAKS 640GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache

    Total £356 from ebuyer.
    You can get free postage from Scan on that order BTW! You have 20+ posts on Hexus so youa re elligible and you activate it on your account.

    I would ditch the X2 7850 for a newer chip and also the PSU is not that great for an HD4870 too.

    This is what I would get:

    Athlon II X2 250 ~ £56

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-A...MHz-65W-Retail

    This is a much newer processor than the X2 7850 and faster too due to an improved design.

    If you want to save some cash go for the X2 240 instead for around £43.

    Gigabyte MA770-UD3 revision 2 ~ £55

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...D3-Motherboard

    Ebuyer seem to only have the inferior revision one version of the motherboard

    4gb PC2-8500 DDR2 RAM ~ £37

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-(...S-5-6-6-18-EPP

    Akasa Zen case ~ £35

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=723916

    HX450 ~ £58

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/450W-...-year-Warranty

    If you are going for a HD4870 get a PSU which has two PCI-E power connectors which the HD4870 needs. Also it is modular meaning less cable clutter in the case and hence better airflow. You also need to go for a decent PSU make too as cheap ones do not have very accurate ratings. The Coolermaster 460w should be OK for an HD4830 or GTS250 Green Edition but not for anything higher IMHO and even then I would not trust it entirely. For an HD4670 or a nother bus powered card it would be fine though.

    Samsung 320gb F1 ~£34

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=867043

    It is a single platter drive and very quick.

    HD4870 ~£90

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169206

    SATA DVd rewriter ~ £15

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170014

    The total should come to around £380.


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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Not sure I am adding anything but here goes:-

    I would put in the AMD Athlon X2 245 (Its an Athlon II) 2.9GHZ for £50 and save £3. Not sure how much better it is but it is much newer release wise. The AMD Phenom X3 Triple Core 8650 2.3GHz for £59 is slighly more; not sure if it is a better CPU.

    Make sure you get revision 2 of the UD3 motherboard. I just got one and it is not bad at all; the NB is a bit hot but otherwise no complaints (and the MOBO plug is a stupid place).

    There are alot of threads for people building systems about HDDs; may be worth pulling together some opinions.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Sounds good. just did a basket and total is £375. which is good.

    How does that compare to the Intel spec Legacy posted?
    obviously upgrading that one to a 4870 too.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Drat and blast; just beaten by the Moose!

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    I think you'll find the new athlonII's are better
    Cannot fault that build in any other way.
    Well maybe, look at the Sapphire Vapor-X cards as the cooler is suposed to be very good and quiet

    Intel Pentium Dual-Core, E6300, Wolfdale, 2.80 GHz
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...tio-65W-Retail
    The old e6300 core2duo now bing passed off as a pentium dual core?
    You be better with the e5400 as it will overclock far better.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Quote Originally Posted by sswats View Post
    Sounds good. just did a basket and total is £375. which is good.

    How does that compare to the Intel spec Legacy posted?
    obviously upgrading that one to a 4870 too.
    The X2 250 is faster in games,encoding and rendering:

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=96&p2=94


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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    I think you'll find the new athlonII's are better
    Cannot fault that build in any other way.
    Well maybe, look at the Sapphire Vapor-X cards as the cooler is suposed to be very good and quiet

    The old e6300 core2duo now bing passed off as a pentium dual core?
    You be better with the e5400 as it will overclock far better.
    The "new" E6300 is basically a 1066mhz FSB E5000 series CPU with virtualisation enabled!


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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    The old e6300 core2duo now bing passed off as a pentium dual core?
    No this E6300 is 45nm @2.80 GHz the old was 65nm @1.86 GHz

    I will have the last laugh thank you.

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Umm not quite, as it 65nms based, not 45nms, so it's the same as the original e6300

    Correction, it is different, maybe scan have just got the specs wrong
    But what the Heck are intel doing calling that exact model number??

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Motherboard is out of stock.
    Anyone know where else to get this motherboard?

    And how do i know if its a revision 2 motherboard or not?

    whats the difference between the one above and this one-
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...-SATA-RAID-ATX

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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    Quote Originally Posted by sswats View Post
    Motherboard is out of stock.
    Anyone know where else to get this motherboard?

    And how do i know if its a revision 2 motherboard or not?

    whats the difference between the one above and this one-
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...-SATA-RAID-ATX
    The revision two motherboard has the improved SB710 southbridge and better placement of the ports. The SB710 is better for overclocking and can be used for core unlocking of Phenom II X2 and X3 processors.

    Look at the pictures from the product pages on the Gigabyte websiteand you can see the difference!

    GA-MA770-UD3 revision one:

    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=2982



    GA-MA770-UD3 revision two:

    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=3097



    The revision two motherboard has DDR2 1333+ written on it. It also has a 4 pin EPS connector too unlike the first revision which means the motherboard can draw more power which is better if you want to put in a more powerful CPU at a later date or want to overclock.


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    Re: £350 for a Gaming desktop PC

    If you want to save some money, check out my pc bits in the sale forum.

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