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    Question Gaming pc advice

    Looking to build someone their first gaming pc. Budget is £500 just for the pc (no o/s, keyboard, mouse, monitor needed). Other than gaming it will be used for everyday things - internet browsing, word processing etc. Going to get the parts from one place - SCAN.

    Antec 300 - £44.85
    1TB Samsung HD103UJ Spinpoint F1 - £57.43
    Samsung SH-S223B/BEBE 22x DVD±R - £16.43
    Hauppauge WinTV Nova - £42.88

    This leaves about £337 for the graphics card, cpu, motherboard, ram and psu. Components wont be overclocked.

    I am not really a gamer myself so looking for some recommendations on what to get. For this budget I guess dual core would be best but would an Intel or AMD system give best performance for the price?

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    What resolution does he want to game at?
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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    1920 x 1080 is the resolution of the monitor he has, but not sure on max game resolution. He plays COD4.
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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    You'll need to price a graphics card into the equation as well then, and not the cheapest one.

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Check the today only deals, there was a full system available when i checked for £212 - Dual-core, 4GB ram etc only needed a grafox card adding to it as it was a G31 motherboard and the built in grafix is poo.
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    okay well a first iteration might look something like this:

    AMD Phenom II X2 550 black edition £74.52 :
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AMD-P...MHz-85W-Retail

    Asus M4A785D-M PRO £58.64 :
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    2GB corsair value select DDR2 800 cas5 £20.29 :
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    1gb Power Color HD 4850 £78.07:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-P...I-I-HDMI-D-Sub

    Total: £284.39 (inc vat)

    That system would easily game COD4 at that resolution, has a blindingly fast CPU, and if you were running a 64bit OS you have enough left over to go to 4gb RAM easily (no point if on 32bit though - won't make a difference in XP).

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Your probably going to have to replace the 4850 with something more powerful for a 1920 display.....the 4890 puts you only slightly over budget.

    I'd have gone the intel route for the cheaper CPU (plus a decent overclock)

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    Total £347.09

    You could reduce the RAM from 4 to 2GB to keep it in budget....but TBH, it's probably worth spending that little bit more.
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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Your probably going to have to replace the 4850 with something more powerful for a 1920 display......
    Not for COD4:



    (And they were only testing the 512mb version)

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Kalniel's build is essentially what i would do. The HD4850 is more than enough for COD4 and most games at this resolution but if you have more money, then go for a HD4870 or even a HD4890 but I would try and get a sapphire vapor x card, lovely quiet and effective coolers

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    kalniel that looks ideal. 64bit O/S will be installed and so will be putting in 4GB ram.

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    Will leave £33.32 to upgrade the graphics card.

    Could get the 1GB XFX HD 4870, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 3600MHz GDDR5, GPU 750MHz, 800Cores, 2x Dual Link DVI-I, HDCP Ready and come in just £2.50 over budget.
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-X...I-I-HDCP-Ready
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    Well, fair enough, if you trust Toms and your sure your freind won't be looking at any newer games any time soon, the AMD build is better.
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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Have asked the person who it is for to check with their son if there are any new games he plans on getting.

    Using kalniel suggested build it will come in £33.32 under budget so could upgrade the graphics card to the 1GB XFX HD 4870, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 3600MHz GDDR5, GPU 750MHz, 800Cores, 2x Dual Link DVI-I, HDCP Ready and come in just £2.50 over budget. http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/1GB-X...I-I-HDCP-Ready
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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Thinking P2 x3 720 instead of a x2 550. 3 cores vs 2? These come on today only at ~£86.

    An extra core for £12? If you downgrade the MOBO to a 770 (ca £52) it will only put you about £4 overbudget. Of course the timing thing may come into it.

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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Dont think the third core will make a great difference in gaming.

    But think I will look for a similar priced full size ATX board if possible and one without onboard VGA as it is not needed. I think on the MATX board space will be a issue as the TV card needs to go next to the gfx.
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    Re: Gaming pc advice

    Quote Originally Posted by nickp8 View Post
    Dont think the third core will make a great difference in gaming.

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    Not in the next few years though.Plenty of games such as ARMA II,Lost Planet,GTAIV and Farcry 2 actually run better on triple and quad cores. If the PC is going to be used for a three to four years it would be better to get a triple core than a quad TBH.

    If you intend to go with a dual core then there is also the X2 545 which is only clocked 100mhz slower but is much cheaper than an X2 550(around £8 IIRC).

    Also instead of the 785G based motherboard look at a 770 based one such as the Gigabyte MA770-UD3 revision 2 which is cheaper and lacks integrated graphics but has the same SB710 southbridge:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...D3-Motherboard

    Many members on Hexus have used this motherboard and it is excellent value for money.

    Also remember that the Phenom II X2 and X3 processors can be in some cases "unlocked" to a full quad core if you are lucky using motherboards with either the SB710 or SB750 southbridge which have ACC.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 27-08-2009 at 11:51 PM.


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