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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlGrey View Post
    @arthurleung, I considered the 1.5TB for a while, but it too is noisy and I think I'll be putting a fresh install of windows on it and using it as my OS drive, so speed does matter
    I have the 1TB of the F2, and it is definitely inaudible on the quiet system that I have (I am using a TRUE and Accelero with 800-1000RPM fans to cool the CPU and GFX card). It's possible that the extra platter changes that. I'll find out by the end of the day, since I have 1.5TB F2 waiting to be used

    I am using that F2 as a system drive as a temporary measure. It will need to be wiped eventually as I am using Windows 7 RC on it and I am thinking of going SSD possibly then (depending on price). Frankly speaking, it's not bad at all performance wise. It didn't make me miss the Raptor on non-quiet system though I do not doubt that side by side, the Raptor (and the F1/Caviar Black for that matter) will be faster for your purpose.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    may I humbly suggest a Hitachi 1 gig drive...?

    my 1gig Hitachi is much faster than my Sammy F1 750 gig drive, and cheap enough to upgrade it next year and keep as spare drive

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jace007 View Post
    Alot of ppl around these forums seem to have had problems with F1, hmmm seems odd maybe they are a one off?
    When lots of people buy them, expect to see reports of failures. If everyone who hasn't had a problem with them posted, the forums would be flooded.
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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    I still like the Western Digitial RE drives in RAID 1
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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    may I humbly suggest a Hitachi 1 gig drive...?
    I had a very close look at that drive (online that is), as I was seriously considering one when they went for about £50 on Scan last week. It looks to me that for the 1TB at least if you look outside sequential transfers though, they are very much neck in neck. There are some benchmarks where the F1 trounces the Hitachi too. Also keep in mind that larger drives tend to give better sequential transfer results so the difference should be narrower if you were comparing two 1TB drives.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Exactly - the 750gb drive is a lot slower than the F1 1tb - as you see later in that thread I tested the sammy 1TB and it beat out Zak33s hitachi test.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    I've got a small aversion (sp?) to Sammy's now, because I've failed to install Vista to two separate F1 drives on two separate mobo's and I still don't know why. They drives are not recognised by Vista 64 at install, nor Vista 32 Home, but they ARE recognised by XP SP2 and DO show in the BIOS of the PC's in question.

    Once OS is installed and running (on another HDD), the drives ARE visible, and can be formatted through Vista. It's a weird error and one I dislike cos it adds work to otherwise simple installs.

    They seem to be less compatible with various BIOS's than WD and Hitachi drives, though I know not why

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    When lots of people buy them, expect to see reports of failures. If everyone who hasn't had a problem with them posted, the forums would be flooded.

    I use a Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 1TB as my storage drive, I've had no problems at all with it. I can only notice it whirring when I try to listen for it, but I'd imagine the case would be the same for most hard disks, being that the loudest thing in my system is my GTX 295's fan.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    WD Black do tend to make more nosie, their platters are alot more hotter too around 46c but not more hotter than the Hitachi drives which i dont think are anything special. Ive always liked WD harddrive due to their reliablity, seagate 1tb are'nt bad either. I think i'll still buy a Samsung F1, and if it has issues RMA it.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    I've got a small aversion (sp?) to Sammy's now, because I've failed to install Vista to two separate F1 drives on two separate mobo's and I still don't know why. They drives are not recognised by Vista 64 at install, nor Vista 32 Home, but they ARE recognised by XP SP2 and DO show in the BIOS of the PC's in question.

    Once OS is installed and running (on another HDD), the drives ARE visible, and can be formatted through Vista. It's a weird error and one I dislike cos it adds work to otherwise simple installs.

    They seem to be less compatible with various BIOS's than WD and Hitachi drives, though I know not why
    Were you plugging them into a RAID capable controller but not using the RAID BIOS to configure them? (remember only one of the two on-board RAID controllers can be accessed via the main BIOS on many boards)
    I had a similar issue with W7RC until I provided the install with the RAID controller driver - then all was well.

    I've been using my RAID1 pair of F1 750's for over a year now and am happy so far. Their performance is such that running RAID1 is not an issue when compared to older single-drive setups. With drives being so cheap I'd urge any enthusiast who can cope with a RAID rebuild to use RAID1 for their boot/install drives. It saves hours of pain if a drive does fail.
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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzed_out View Post
    No 10dB is twice as loud, its a logarithmic scale with 60 as a base line which is "ordinary conversation". An increase of 10dB is twice as loud.

    Your getting confused in that an increase of 3dB is twice as much power
    Dammit, you're right. Thanks for pointing that out, I really shouldn't be getting confused with a degree in physics, but hey

    For anyone else looking for a sanity check - http://trace.wisc.edu/docs/2004-About-dB/

    Back on topic; maybe I should just blow the budget and get one of these:
    http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=640
    Hopefully reviews should be out soon.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by UseItNow View Post
    Seven?
    Well, 1 of the 320GB version and 6 of the 1TB version.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimeous View Post
    Were you plugging them into a RAID capable controller but not using the RAID BIOS to configure them? (remember only one of the two on-board RAID controllers can be accessed via the main BIOS on many boards)
    I had a similar issue with W7RC until I provided the install with the RAID controller driver - then all was well.
    you've lost me there bud. I can install Vista on every drive I have, on any SATA port I have.. but not on this drive. Mobo IS RAID capable and it's not being used, and no other drive I have needed such a thing.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    you've lost me there bud. I can install Vista on every drive I have, on any SATA port I have.. but not on this drive. Mobo IS RAID capable and it's not being used, and no other drive I have needed such a thing.
    It's just I had a similar problem recently installing 64-bit W7RC onto an 320Gb F1 on an ASUS P6T motherboard. The two drives I'd installed weren't recognised.
    So I restarted the install - this time providing drivers for the RAID array as though I wanted a RAID config - and hey ho the drives appeared ready to be installed upon.
    That said it took trial and error to get the right drivers off the ASUS disk.

    I wander if a firmware update is required but I have never checked as I got it working *sighs*

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlGrey View Post
    Back on topic; maybe I should just blow the budget and get one of these:
    http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=640
    Hopefully reviews should be out soon.
    I have to ask, 'why'. Are you space constrained (e.g. using a Shuttle)? If not, then you are coming very close to a price territory of a Velociraptor/small SSD + 1.5GB Samsung F2 combo.

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    Re: Is the Samsung F1 still the drive of choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    I have to ask, 'why'.
    I wasn't really serious, I am budget constrained more than anything else...

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