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    Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Hey guys,
    I know its another one of "these" threads.

    But I figured you wouldn't mind giving it the once over. My friends looked into this for a while and believes this is the best he can do with the cash he has.

    http://i26.tinypic.com/1t7xud.jpg

    Max spending is £350 - Ive looked over a few threads that were at the £400/500 mark and couldn't really make a decision.

    Getting geil pc6400 2gb off me - has monitor, kb, mouse, optical drive.

    Just wanted to know if you could replace some things to get more bang4buck.

    Thanks.


    P.S. Is it me or is DDR2 ram going UP steadily in price?!
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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    graphics card
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168023

    Don't think much of that case, too narrow for a 120mm fan based tower cooler
    And only a max 92mm rear fan.

    If you're in no rush this case "looks" very good
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

    Bit more expensive but not much
    NZXT Beta
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/NZXT-...r-Case-w-o-PSU

    Silverstone Precision PS02b
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Silve...r-Case-w-o-PSU

    Coolermaster Elite 330
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127584

    In general CAT's exellent cheap build
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ild-400-a.html
    damn him.

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    In general CAT's exellent cheap build
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ild-400-a.html
    damn him.
    Hopefully in a good way??


    To the OP you can save money on the build I specced by going for a DDR2 based AM2+ motherboard and the Geil RAM you are giving your mate.

    I would get the Gigabyte MA770-UD3 revision 2:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...D3-Motherboard

    This should bring the cost down to under £350 and it will be a a decent build for the price. The triple core processor will do well in games which run better on multiple cores too. The SB710 southbridge may enable you to unlock the processor to a quad core if you are lucky.

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    It's amazing just how cheap you can build a pretty good gaming system for these days, I upgraded from my single core AMD 3200+ to a E5200, 4gb ram, and a 8800gt for a total of £170 back in May, though I did get my 8800gt for 50 quid second hand and it runs almost everything on the highest settings @ 1440 x 900, and my next upgrade will just be the gfx card as my E5200 oc'd to 3.4ghz is far from being a bottle neck as yet nor can I see it becoming one for a while.
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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by revol68 View Post
    It's amazing just how cheap you can build a pretty good gaming system for these days, I upgraded from my single core AMD 3200+ to a E5200, 4gb ram, and a 8800gt for a total of £170 back in May, though I did get my 8800gt for 50 quid second hand and it runs almost everything on the highest settings @ 1440 x 900, and my next upgrade will just be the gfx card as my E5200 oc'd to 3.4ghz is far from being a bottle neck as yet nor can I see it becoming one for a while.
    any thing over a 9800gtx+(gts 250) will be held back buy ure cpu just thorght i would give you the heads up

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    yeah, ddr2 ram jumped in price recently, I bought 4x2gb ram just before the price hike and since then it costs at £20 more if I were to buy the same thing now.. it's a huge difference.

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by barwell1992 View Post
    any thing over a 9800gtx+(gts 250) will be held back buy ure cpu just thorght i would give you the heads up
    held back in what sense though, I'm not exactly going to be missing playing CoD4 at 160 fps versus 80 fps.

    The whole CPU bottlenecking issue is largely over stated, just up the image quality, stick on some AA and it quickly becomes largely insignificant.



    I mean the difference between an overclocked E5200 with 2 x 4850's and a Q6600 is very little, especially when you overclock the e5200
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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Hopefully in a good way??


    To the OP you can save money on the build I specced by going for a DDR2 based AM2+ motherboard and the Geil RAM you are giving your mate.

    I would get the Gigabyte MA770-UD3 revision 2:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...D3-Motherboard

    This should bring the cost down to under £350 and it will be a a decent build for the price. The triple core processor will do well in games which run better on multiple cores too. The SB710 southbridge may enable you to unlock the processor to a quad core if you are lucky.
    Ah right ok, thats comforting to know. Thanks for the additions guys, I'll discuss this with him.

    I was going to post in that £400 thread you answered in, but didnt want to hijack it! It was rather good.
    In retrospect I should have mentioned it in my post really (to show I did read up here, to some extent), silly me.


    PS. Dont ask why Im still up at this time...
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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by barwell1992 View Post
    any thing over a 9800gtx+(gts 250) will be held back buy ure cpu just thorght i would give you the heads up
    but anything over a 9800gtx+ is totally wasted on a 19" res of 1440x900, in fact a9800gtx+ is overkill for that res, a 8800gt is just right
    The only reason I'd put forward a 4850 is that they are very cheap atm for £70 that is just as much as most 9800gt/4770 go for new

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    If I were to upgrade his monitor to a 22" later down the line, a 4850 would be sufficient, correct?
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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    The ram I bought was £37.99 when I started looking a week later was £40 and now its £55!

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by Oobie- View Post
    If I were to upgrade his monitor to a 22" later down the line, a 4850 would be sufficient, correct?
    Should be fine, I'm still happly running a 22" off of my 9800gtx (not + version) which is less powerful.

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by no_numb View Post
    The ram I bought was £37.99 when I started looking a week later was £40 and now its £55!
    That is because its DDR2, not many manufactures are making that now as it is not were the volume is however it does have better margins than DDR3.

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Right well hes decided on the e5300 - his reasoning not mine.

    Wants to OC that bad boy when he can. Any recommendations on a cooler?

    Is it still the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that's the choice for cheapness?
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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by Oobie- View Post

    Is it still the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that's the choice for cheapness?
    Yeah.
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Super budget PC - suitable for gaming - £350 or so

    Quote Originally Posted by Oobie- View Post
    Right well hes decided on the e5300 - his reasoning not mine.

    Wants to OC that bad boy when he can. Any recommendations on a cooler?

    Is it still the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro that's the choice for cheapness?
    No
    It was betten a while back by the Akasa AK-965 x3 which is just as good but slightly cheaper.
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Akasa...Intel-push-pin

    Depending on the size of the case (200mm wide at least) then a 120mm fan based tower cooler would be good (quieter) about £10 more thoe
    Akasa Nero AK-967
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Akasa...-120mm-PWM-fan

    EDIT: this Xigmatek cooler should fit if the case is under 200mm wide, not sure what it's like for mounting (found it, push pins) performance nothing spectaular, but you don't need spectaular cooling on a e5300 anyway and it's cheap
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Xigma...T-D1284-cooler

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