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    New Intel build spec please

    After an extremely testing time with my AMD System we are in desperate need of a PC to run Premiere Pro for editing uncompressed video.

    Not looking to spend thousands, though the recent experience is making me want to go for Intel over AMD.

    Requirements:
    8GB RAM
    Quad Core Processor
    4+ SATA Ports
    Doesn't need to be a great graphics card as a game will never be played on it
    Vista 64
    STABILITY!

    Already have 3xF1 HDDs and a Blackmagic SDI capture card, though I'd be interested to hear thoughts on an SSD for OS and Programs.

    Many thanks people!

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    Have you tried updating the BIOS to the latest version?? You had an X2 in there before so are the issues only when you plonked in the Phenom II 955BE??

    Also what PSU is in your computer too as a Phenom quad core does have much higher power consumption than a dual core?! A PSU which is on the limits of what it can handle can cause many issues.

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    I didn't get the Phenom in the end - wanted to get things working and stable first. Still have Athlon 7750 BE in there, and all latest firmware/drivers etc.

    If you do have any thoughts that would be great! Have swapped in/out every component for different, tested all RAM, HDDs etc. I have a Corsair 520W modular PSU

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    Just read the original thread on the Scan section of the forum, doesn't look all that good. Just a quick question, you have set the voltage for the RAM correctly in the BIOS ? Incorrect voltage settings will give that problem.

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    Thanks for your reply Behemoth. Ram voltage was previously set at the 1.8V stated on the sticks, this threw up memtest errors so I changed it to 1.9V as per Corsair's recommendation on their site and it was stable (in Memtest though still blue screens). Timings are also set in the BIOS.

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    I would also look at what BIOS version you are using. The Intel 975x based motherboard in my main computer had BSODs and after mucking around with various releases of the BIOS a slightly less than current version was the most stable release !!

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    I'm afraid I've tried them all, each time I just went one version higher. Unfortunately I've had months of it trying everything I could think of, but the BSODs just got progressively worse.

    It's a computer we constantly use at work, hence the need to replace it asap and then carry on fiddling trying to fix things. Did you have any thoughts on a spec? Definitely not an Asus M3A78 board as we've had the same problems with the -VM and the -CM!

    Thanks as always,

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    It's got to be an incompatability then with some of the components, or that motherboard is just super fussy ! I know a few weeks ago my Asus AMD board decided it no longer liked my RAM. I've got 4 gig of Corsair RAM sitting here that I can no longer use that I'm convivned is not faulty but I've got no way of testing it on another board that isn't Asus.

    Oddly enough the 4 gig stuff that Aria brand as their Elite RAM (branded Zepplin) works like a dream !

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    I'm inclined to agree. I really can't think of anything else it could be, all of the components have been tested by myself and by Scan and individually they are all fine - they must just not like each other. I would go for a Phenom 955 and stay AMD if anyone has a tried and tested Mobo/RAM/CPU combo - anything to get a machine up and running!!

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    It does put you off every buying Asus again. I always used to use Gygabyte boards but when the last AM2 board I had got fried by a mates dodgy PSU he kindly footed the bill for my new Mobo, sadly he was a cheap skate and so I had to make do with the Asus one I have now.

    Build quality, I can't fault it, I really can't, but it's level of compatability is very doubtful at times. I shan't be buying Asus again in the future, which is a pitty.

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    How about:

    GA-MA770T-UD3P Mobo
    AMD Phenom 955
    6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600MHz)

    As a base? Any thoughts on whether or not it's worth getting one of the Intel SSDs for OS/Programs? Also a cheapish GPU with 2 outputs

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    Looks pretty decent, may well be worth a try, you decided not to go with intel then ?

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    For the price, I'm tempted to side with AMD... Thoughts on:

    Coolermaster Elite 330 Case £27.93
    Corsair 450HX PSU £52.20
    Sony AD-7240 Optical Drive £16.55
    Vista 64 Business £112.15
    Gigabyte GA-MA785GT Motherboard £75.21
    80GB Intel SSD X25-M £166.74
    4 x Hitachi 250GB Deskstar as RAID0 Scratch Disk £115
    AMD Phenom II 955 CPU £136.84
    6GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC3-10666 7-7-7-20 RAM £109.24

    Total £823.55 inc VAT

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    How do you plan to use the SSD?
    Most of the work you'll be doing relys heavily on the scratch and projects drives so will you really see its benefit?
    Personally I'd go for a pair of 1Tb drives in place of the Hitachi's. The drives will be considerably faster natively and even 1Tb scratch space may not be enough for HD (if that's your intention). The new Sammy F3's would be first on my list unless you feel you need the reliability of WD's RE-series drives.

    If you stick to 5 new drives plus the 3 you already have I really think you need a bigger case to cool them off. The 330 really doesn't have the cooling capacity for that many drives.
    A full-mesh-fronted case like the Antec 300 or Coolermaster 590 would be better budget choices. The 590 comes with a 4-drive/120mm fan caddy and another can be added.
    I'd even be tempted to go for a full Stacker 830/832 just for all the extra 120mm fan bays and room to work in.

    With Win7 so close are you prepared to try it in place of Vista? It should be less system-heavy and liberate a little extra go.

    Oh and does the 450HX have enough cables for all those drives?
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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    All excellent points, thank you.

    The SSD will be used for the OS and Program Files, speed of boot and loading programs etc. Do you not think it is worthwhile as it is quite a large expense?

    4 x 250GBs were to be used as RAID 0 purely as scratch disks for heavy rendering and encoding work, not for storage. I was under the impression I would get better performance from 4 drives rather than 2 for this purpose?

    I will not be using the 3 drives from the other build in this - this will be a completely new machine. This will only have what is listed above but I still take on the point about a bigger case and will indeed buy one. I've always fancied a 300!

    Vista64 Business with Windows 7 offer form was chosen so I can put that on in a month's time. (Does the offer form mean Win7 is free when released?)

    You're right about the PSU (based on current drives). May need to be 450W Corsair VX

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimeous View Post
    How do you plan to use the SSD?
    Most of the work you'll be doing relys heavily on the scratch and projects drives so will you really see its benefit?
    Personally I'd go for a pair of 1Tb drives in place of the Hitachi's. The drives will be considerably faster natively and even 1Tb scratch space may not be enough for HD (if that's your intention). The new Sammy F3's would be first on my list unless you feel you need the reliability of WD's RE-series drives.

    If you stick to 5 new drives plus the 3 you already have I really think you need a bigger case to cool them off. The 330 really doesn't have the cooling capacity for that many drives.
    A full-mesh-fronted case like the Antec 300 or Coolermaster 590 would be better budget choices. The 590 comes with a 4-drive/120mm fan caddy and another can be added.
    I'd even be tempted to go for a full Stacker 830/832 just for all the extra 120mm fan bays and room to work in.

    With Win7 so close are you prepared to try it in place of Vista? It should be less system-heavy and liberate a little extra go.

    Oh and does the 450HX have enough cables for all those drives?

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    Re: New Intel build spec please

    4-drive RAID0 will be faster than 2-drive certainly but it does rely heavily on the quality of the controller.
    Splitting the data into quarters and writing it away is fast but reassembling it is more difficult. Sadly I've no performance comparitors for onboard RAID controllers.
    I use a dedicated controller (see PC2 in siggie) but that adds significant extra cost.
    The improved read/write times for the latest 500Gb/platter drives might vs 250Gb items may be such that a 2-drive RAID0 may make up the performance difference.

    Yes the offer does mean Win7 but some places are charging postage. I saw an Aldi offer for a Medion PC for example that was charging £19.95 admin/postage!
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