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    Smile Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    whats in the title basically. Its for my friend and ive suggested some items to him but there are other areas where im not too sure. The build is for the base unit - he has KB/mouse, monitor but does need a DVD drive.

    Im sort of thinking along the lines of a 5770 for his grafix card and marrying it up with an Athlon X4 or Phenom X3. On the other hand should he wait until the i3's get here and get himself a dual core w/HT and see how that pans out. 4GB of DDR3 is most probably going to be another road to go down as its just not economical to go for DDR2 motherboards at current prices.

    Suggestions ???
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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Where's Pob when ya need em?

    Not only is it doable, it's be done for less.
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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    I would have said maybe a 4870 or gtx 260 instead of the 5770, as (at the moment) they can be had cheaper than the 5770 and seem to perform better, subject to future driver changes. Unless of course dx11 is a deciding factor...?

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Agreed - 5770 is a premium right now, they'll come down a lot later.

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Random_guy View Post
    I would have said maybe a 4870 or gtx 260 instead of the 5770, as (at the moment) they can be had cheaper than the 5770 and seem to perform better, subject to future driver changes. Unless of course dx11 is a deciding factor...?
    That’s funny; I would have said the opposite.

    The 4870 has a notoriously high power consumption and high temps, which would put me right off.

    The 5770 performance in relation to the 4870 and GTX 260 is almost on par, and in some games with certain resolutions and effects it can outperform them. Let’s not forget it consumes far less power, produces far less heat, is smaller and is also DX11 compliant.

    Power hungry cards means you’ll need a slightly more expensive PSU with a higher rated wattage, so overall thats a saving.

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Agreed - 5770 is a premium right now, they'll come down a lot later.
    £111 is a premium? I dont think so.

    The 4770s sell for the same price as a better performing 4850, and for good reason, they consume less power and produce less heat, these are things to consider.

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    I was under the impression that the 4870 & 260 need 2 power connetcors in compariosn to the 5770's single, this way he wouldn't need to buy a higher PSU so to speak but still a reputable one ofcourse. Also I don't think hes the type who's after second hand parts, all though your suggestions have been appreciated
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeludedGuy View Post
    £111 is a premium? I dont think so.
    I do think so - they've got a huge margin to be able to reduce costs in response to future competition from nVidia. It's only the dx11 monopoly and new adaptor premium that's keeping it high at the moment. They could probably sell them for £70-80 and still make a decent margin.

    But it's still a good chip for the price, just the price is higher than usual at the moment.

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    £111? I can only find the 5750 for £111, the 5770 seems to be around the £125 mark wherever I've looked....

    On the heat and power consumption though, fair enough if those are considerations, and also on the second power connector. I suppose it really depends how much cheaper you can get a decent power supply with 1 PCI-E connector instead of 2?

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Any recommendations then on any components or build ?
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    I was under the impression that the 4870 & 260 need 2 power connetcors in compariosn to the 5770's single, this way he wouldn't need to buy a higher PSU so to speak but still a reputable one ofcourse. Also I don't think hes the type who's after second hand parts, all though your suggestions have been appreciated
    Im running a 4890 off a 5 year old Enermax 520W with 36a @ 12v
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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    I would probably look at something along these lines:

    AMD Phenom II X3 720 ~ £90

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159071

    4gb DDR3 RAM ~ £61

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166995

    MSI 770-C45 ~ £49

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/165438

    HD4870 512mb ~ £93

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169206

    Samsung F3 1TB ~ £57

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804

    Corsair 450W HX Series Modular PSU ~ £52

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152606

    DVD rewriter~ £16

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164449

    Case ~ £25

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

    The Total comes to around £443 including the free Supersaver postage option and excluding the cost of an OS.

    The motherboard is quite decent for the price and has all solid capacitors too:

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mot...board-review/1

    BTW,the cheaper HD5750 and HD5770 cards have sold out on Ebuyer.


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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Cheers for the build, he probably wont be buying until next week so il keep an eye out for today only offers and the like. Do you think its worth spending teh extra and going for a 550VX rather than the 450HX? Likewise and spending the extra and going for a 1GB 4870 ?
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    TBH, an HX450W should be enough to power an HD4890 or HD5850 IMHO although if you want to play it safe then get the VX550W.

    BTW,the cost of the HD4870 1gb and a VX550W or an HD5770 1gb and a HX450W will be around the same from the prices on Ebuyer.


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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    Quote Originally Posted by nightkhaos View Post
    Where's Pob when ya need em?

    Not only is it doable, it's be done for less.
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    Yep is doable for less

    I'd go along with CAT's sugestion (he must have that in a file ready for copy&pasteing)

    With a few changes

    AMD Phenom II X2 545 3GHz
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168972
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    AMD Athlon X2 245 2.9GHZ
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/168975
    I still don't see any real need for more than 2 cores yet, the extra saved can be put on a cooler.

    For graphics card, depends on what he want to play and at what resolution.
    a 4850 or gts250 for under £80 would be more than enough for anything under a 22" and will happy cope with most 22" resolutions (16:10 not the higher res 16:9)
    Sapphire HD 4850 512MB £78
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159709
    or
    Zotac GTS250 512MB £78
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160711

    The case is unknown, It's not in yet so we've got no idea if it's any good.
    If he's not the one building it and never really going to dig around inside it then an El-cheapo case is fine.

    For a good cheap case I'd look at one of the Sunbeam cases
    http://www.ebuyer.com/search?page=1&...at=418&mfr=325
    or the Coolermaster Elite 334
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160805

    However consider how little is going in to this I also think about mATX
    Same basic build but
    mATX motherboard
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170230

    Case Antec NSK-4000 II £39 (bit more money but very nice case)
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/170132
    Or a Coolermaster Elite 340 or 341 (if you can find one, should be around £30 or less)
    Scan have htem listed but awaiting eta and price
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coole...X-Case-w-o-PSU

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    Re: Gaming build £400-450. Do-able ?

    The 4870 does run hot but I think it's designed for it tbh. Doesn't worry me, but I only OC it with the catalyst control suite.
    Also a second PCIE connector can be had through a cheap adaptor like so: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Akasa...tor-(AK-CB4-6)
    I'm using a corsair 450vx myself with that adaptor.

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