Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

  1. #1
    Bows out! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hopefully somewhere less backstabby
    Posts
    28,789
    Thanks
    3,203
    Thanked
    4,456 times in 3,442 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    More details here:
    http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=869&p=0

    Basically a Core i7 920 at 2.4GHZ is fast enough. Values with the Phenom II will be added next week according to the review.


    Those despicable Elk,stealing the pond weed!

  2. Received thanks from:

    mac124 (28-11-2009),MadduckUK (28-11-2009),shadowmaster (28-11-2009)

  3. #2
    I'm ITX
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Liverpool
    Posts
    2,415
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked
    159 times in 148 posts

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Very interesting article indeed, thanks for that Cat!

  4. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    they've put quite a lot of effort into making that guide, but i can't really see what they get out of it.
    overclock your CPU and your PC becomes faster? doesn't everyone already know that?

  5. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    453
    Thanks
    27
    Thanked
    47 times in 44 posts
    • mac124's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI P55 GD65
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 750 @ 4Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Mushkin Redline 2133
      • Storage:
      • 40Gb Mushkin SSD + 500GB F3
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte GTX580.
      • PSU:
      • Evo Blue 650
      • Case:
      • Akasa Infiniti
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Samsung
      • Internet:
      • 1Mb thanks to living in the sticks.

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Hmm not bad but it will be more interesting to see it on the lower power systems when they do them.
    Hack: i5 2500~ASROCK Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3~8GB Vengance~HD4770~ ANTEC 302~CX600.
    Gamer: i7 3820 @ 4.4Ghz~MSI X79A-GD65~16GB Redline 2133~Gigabyte GTX580~TT A90~CM SILENT PRO 1000w.



  6. #5
    Senior Member kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    28,998
    Thanks
    1,473
    Thanked
    2,904 times in 2,353 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon X5680
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    they've put quite a lot of effort into making that guide, but i can't really see what they get out of it.
    overclock your CPU and your PC becomes faster? doesn't everyone already know that?
    Did you read it? The article is saying overclock your CPU and your PC doesn't become faster, for playing games at least.

  7. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    London
    Posts
    350
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked
    48 times in 42 posts
    • sadbuttrue's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte P55 UD5
      • CPU:
      • i5 750 @ 3.8ghz + Megahalems + GT1450 @ 5v
      • Memory:
      • G.Skill ECO 4GB 1.4v
      • Storage:
      • Intel 320 120gb + Samsung F4 2tb in Scythe Quiet Drive
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 6950 @ 940/1350/1.175v + Shaman @ 20%
      • PSU:
      • Corsair AX750
      • Case:
      • Raven RV02 with 3xPhobya G-Silent Fans @ 210rpm + Scythe S-Flex 1200 @ 5v
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung 2233rz, Dell 2209wa, Panasonic AX200 Projector
      • Internet:
      • BeThere 24mb

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    2560x1600 8xaa/16xaf? Of course the cpu isn't going to be the limiting factor

  8. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Did you read it? The article is saying overclock your CPU and your PC doesn't become faster, for playing games at least.
    but it makes a 15% difference in one of the games, 15% is quite a bit for an overclock.

  9. #8
    Efficiently lazy shadowmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,233
    Thanks
    397
    Thanked
    310 times in 208 posts
    • shadowmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5
      • CPU:
      • AMD Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.6Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Corsair XMS3
      • Storage:
      • Kingston SSD V series 64GB + Samsung F3 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX 5870 1GB in Crossfire
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet 1200W Dark Power Pro
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Stacker 832 SE
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 3 x BenQ G2222HDL 21.5inch 1080p
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 2

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    but it makes a 15% difference in one of the games, 15% is quite a bit for an overclock.
    Its not that big if the frame rates before are 120 and after overclocking is 138, would you be even able to notice the difference? Then again if you've bought an i7 it would be silly not to overclock it. I think the point of that guide is to show that you don't need a very fast cpu for playing games, however I would like to see lower resolutions tested and other processors such as the phenom II thrown into the mix.

    Here is another article you might be interested in

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/..._cpu_scaling/1

  10. #9
    Yay a custom user title! =assassin='s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    803
    Thanks
    71
    Thanked
    51 times in 34 posts

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by sadbuttrue View Post
    2560x1600 8xaa/16xaf? Of course the cpu isn't going to be the limiting factor
    Agreed, it's pretty much a waste of time testing a CPU at a res that high as it will always be GPU limited. If they wanted to prove a point that in real-world situations it wouldn't matter what CPU is used, they could have done it easily enough by just including two frequencies in the review: 2Ghz and 4GHz.

  11. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Carlisle
    Posts
    4,121
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    368 times in 278 posts
    • matty-hodgson's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35 Dark Raider
      • CPU:
      • Q6600 @ 4GHz (59'C Under a TRUE Black)
      • Memory:
      • 4GB OCZ DDR2 890MHz (5-4-4-15)
      • Storage:
      • Intel 80GB - Games. Intel 80GB - OS. 1TB Samsung - Storage.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • NVIDIA Zotac GTX 275: 728 Core, 1614 Shader, 1340 Memory
      • PSU:
      • Enermax MODU82+ 625w
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung SM2343BW (2048x1152)
      • Internet:
      • Smallworld 4Mbps

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowmaster View Post
    Its not that big if the frame rates before are 120 and after overclocking is 138, would you be even able to notice the difference? Then again if you've bought an i7 it would be silly not to overclock it. I think the point of that guide is to show that you don't need a very fast cpu for playing games, however I would like to see lower resolutions tested and other processors such as the phenom II thrown into the mix.

    Here is another article you might be interested in

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/..._cpu_scaling/1
    but that's cos the GPU is like.. amazing. barely anyone is ever going to own that GPU so there's no point in even testing it. they should've used an everyday GPU like a 5850 or a GTX260 or something like that (going on the audience of such reviews), then see what difference the CPU makes.

  12. #11
    Poor graduate. Ulti's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    2,006
    Thanks
    702
    Thanked
    222 times in 191 posts
    • Ulti's system
      • Motherboard:
      • AsRock B450M Pro4
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 7 1800X
      • Memory:
      • Team Group Delta 32GB DDR4
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Palit GTX 1070 8GB GameRock
      • PSU:
      • SilverStone SX500-LG V2.0
      • Case:
      • Jonsbo UMX3 Tempered Glass Version
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • AOC Agon AG322QC4 31.5" QHD
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet Fibre Extra 80/20

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Would be nicer if they did a lower res as at higher res', the CPU is hardly doing any work compared to the GPU.

  13. #12
    Efficiently lazy shadowmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    London
    Posts
    3,233
    Thanks
    397
    Thanked
    310 times in 208 posts
    • shadowmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5
      • CPU:
      • AMD Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.6Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Corsair XMS3
      • Storage:
      • Kingston SSD V series 64GB + Samsung F3 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • XFX 5870 1GB in Crossfire
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet 1200W Dark Power Pro
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Stacker 832 SE
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 3 x BenQ G2222HDL 21.5inch 1080p
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 2

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    but that's cos the GPU is like.. amazing. barely anyone is ever going to own that GPU so there's no point in even testing it. they should've used an everyday GPU like a 5850 or a GTX260 or something like that (going on the audience of such reviews), then see what difference the CPU makes.
    Good point, maybe this is something for hexus to do a review on?

    Anyhow if you have time matty, run this benchmark http://forums.hexus.net/graphics-car...benchmark.html, we've had a few ati benchmarks but no nvidia ones.

  14. #13
    Bows out! CAT-THE-FIFTH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Hopefully somewhere less backstabby
    Posts
    28,789
    Thanks
    3,203
    Thanked
    4,456 times in 3,442 posts
    • CAT-THE-FIFTH's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Less E-PEEN
      • CPU:
      • Massive E-PEEN
      • Memory:
      • RGB E-PEEN
      • Storage:
      • Not in any order
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVEN BIGGER E-PEEN
      • PSU:
      • OVERSIZED
      • Case:
      • UNDERSIZED
      • Operating System:
      • DOS 6.22
      • Monitor(s):
      • NOT USUALLY ON....WHEN I POST
      • Internet:
      • FUNCTIONAL

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Scaling with the Phenom II X4 has been added to the article.


    Those despicable Elk,stealing the pond weed!

  15. Received thanks from:

    kalniel (02-12-2009)

  16. #14
    Senior Member kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    28,998
    Thanks
    1,473
    Thanked
    2,904 times in 2,353 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon X5680
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Very interesting, especially the higher clocked results often out classing the higher clocked i7. Suggests there's a bottleneck building up in the i7 that AMD have managed to work around.

  17. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    319
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    10 times in 10 posts

    Re: CPU scaling with the HD5970!

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    More details here:
    http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=869&p=0

    Basically a Core i7 920 at 2.4GHZ is fast enough. Values with the Phenom II will be added next week according to the review.
    Most Core 2 Duos at 3GHz will be enough as well. Very few games (mostly console ports) take advantage of quad core.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Q6600 "Guaranteed overclock" editions!
    By Richdog in forum SHOPPING AND CLASSIFIEDS
    Replies: 66
    Last Post: 13-09-2008, 02:48 PM
  2. CPU not running at full speed in Ubuntu
    By Steve in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-09-2008, 01:15 PM
  3. Would I benefit from a cpu upgrade?
    By 360bhp in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 02-09-2008, 01:16 PM
  4. URGENT- CPU Clock speed
    By jagoico2000 in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 25-04-2005, 12:34 AM
  5. CPU TIM Guide
    By Steve in forum Help! Quick Relief From Tech Headaches
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 30-05-2004, 02:59 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •