Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Cooling Challenge

  1. #1
    LUSE Galant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Gibraltar
    Posts
    2,862
    Thanks
    411
    Thanked
    436 times in 262 posts

    Question Cooling Challenge

    Welcome to...Tucson! A desert town in the western USA. In the winter, it gets cool, in the summer, high temps get above 46C, occasionally it approaches 50C.

    I live here. It's hot. Way too hot.

    Last winter, with the help of some of you fine gentlemen, I built my first PC, which has been running wonderfully. However, I've noticed that as room temps increase so does my CPU temp, and right now it's running load at around 53-56C. The temp outside today is about 29C, though being at work I usually access the machine later in the evening when it's a little cooler.

    I'm using only two intake fans and one outlet, and the CPU cooling is a Volcano 9. It's not at full speed right now, and I'd rather not put it there because it gets very loud at full speed.

    So the question is, how do I cool my PC (for not too many $) when we really hit summer and the temps threaten to fry all electronic life?!

    G.
    No trees were harmed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were displaced and terribly inconvenienced.

  2. #2
    Spodes Henchman unrealrocks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Nottingham UK
    Posts
    2,390
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts
    I would recommend watercooling. 50C is in the sun yeah? only that is insainely high and humans can't really survive more than about 42 for much lenth of time.

    G4 PowerMac - Tiger 10.4 - 512MB RAM
    MacBook - 2Ghz - 1GB RAM - 120GB HDD

    Rotel RC970BX | DBX DriveRack |2x Rotel RB850
    B&W DM640i | Velodyne 1512

  3. #3
    OMG!! PWND!!
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    In front of computer
    Posts
    964
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    get a vapochill!
    ....or a peltier!

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    South Wales OR Southampton Uni
    Posts
    2,105
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts
    A peltier probably would be the best solution, a peltiered watercooling system.
    A basic watercooling system may not be that effect with such high ambient temps
    Desktop: AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton, 1024Mb PC-3200 TwinMOS w/Winbond, MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR, Radeon 9800SE AIW, 40 GB 7,200 Rpm Hitachi Deskstar, 120GB 7,200 Rpm 8mb Cache Maxtor Diamond 9, 160GB 7200 Rpm 8mb Cache Seagate 7200.7 SATA, Plextor 708A 8x DVD-RW, 550W PFC Q-tec PSU, Casetek 1019SM Silver Case, Camdridge Soundworks DTT2200 Speakers

    Laptop: Clevo D470W - 17" Widescreen TFT, Intel Pentium4 3.06Ghz 533FSB, 1024Mb PC-2700 Hynix, Radeon Mobility 9000 64Mb, Fujitsu 80Gb 4,200rpm, 250Gb 7,2000rpm 8mb Cache Maxtor OneTouch, Toshiba SD-R6372 DVD-RW +/- x4, Built-in Four speakers, webcam and microphone

  5. #5
    Wats ur tale mothergoose?
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    882
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts
    • Korky's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Abit IP35-Pro
      • CPU:
      • Intel Q6600
      • Memory:
      • 4GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2
      • Storage:
      • 2 x 160GB WD RE2 RAID0
      • Graphics card(s):
      • HD 4870x2
      • PSU:
      • XFX 850W
      • Case:
      • Cheapo
      • Operating System:
      • Windows Vista 32bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 18" Hanns.G / 42" Panasonic G20
      • Internet:
      • 10Mbit Cable
    omg 50oC thats f**kin deadly. dont ppl just melt when they sit down in their cars and stuff
    3D Mark 2k1 - 20661

    If you get a customer, or an employee, who thinks he's Charles Bronson, take the butt of your gun and smash their nose in.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Lost in Cyberspace
    Posts
    374
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    give up, move to alaska!

  7. #7
    . bledd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Posts
    1,882
    Thanks
    22
    Thanked
    134 times in 84 posts
    having your pc on the floor rather than on a desk will lower temps by a few degrees, might wanna try this?

    a non perfect solution is to leave the side of the case off when you are going to be using it at full load. not ideal, but its free!

  8. #8
    Don't feed the trolls... tiggerai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Milk & Beans
    Posts
    9,284
    Thanks
    271
    Thanked
    471 times in 312 posts
    • tiggerai's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P
      • CPU:
      • AMD PhenomII 955BE
      • Memory:
      • 4Gb Corsair XMS DDR3
      • Storage:
      • Lots
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire X1950XT
      • PSU:
      • Hiper Type-R 550w
      • Case:
      • Antec lovely black thing
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2x 20" widescreen
      • Internet:
      • Pipexpants
    More fans, cut holes.

    I used to have 3 80mm intakes (front and sides), and 120mm outtake in the top (heat rises) and one on the back (draws away heat from cpu.). Gave me some good temps, especially int he summer when it got hot... (not tuscan hot though.)

    But if you're a silence freak, that won't work.

  9. #9
    Beard hat ftw! steve threlfall's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    West Midlands
    Posts
    6,743
    Thanks
    302
    Thanked
    192 times in 123 posts
    • steve threlfall's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z77-D3H
      • CPU:
      • Core i5-3570K
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3
      • Storage:
      • Samsung 830 256
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Radeon HD6870
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX750
      • Case:
      • Antec P280
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 2407 WFP 24" Widescreen, Rev A04
      • Internet:
      • Virgin 120/12 mb
    How much cash do you have to spend. A decent yet reasonably priced watercooling kit seems to be a good bet.

  10. #10
    Puk Guy Proplus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Cardiff and Brum
    Posts
    825
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts
    Buy a freezer, and put the PC inside it!

    Seriously though, even with watercooling, at 50C you're gonna need a pretty good setup to keep the system cool. 50C is mighty hot, is that the air temp? Cos if it is, then you're in for some serious problems. Not only will your CPU heat up, so will the rest of your components like GFX, NB and the mobo temp. GFX, NB and CPU can be cooled by watercooling, but then you got the mobo to worry about.

    IMHO, the best option for you is to get an air conditioning system in your PC room.

  11. #11
    LUSE Galant's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Gibraltar
    Posts
    2,862
    Thanks
    411
    Thanked
    436 times in 262 posts
    50C is the max outdoors, in the sun temp, in room temps can vary, because while you have shade, you also have windows and reduced air-flow. We have A/C, but I've noticed that since moving to this new location, CPU temps have risen, I used to run load at 48 or so, now it's up around 54, and I know the ambient temp is going to get worse.

    How much can I expect to spend on Peltier and/or Watercooling? Also, are they tricky to set-up or maintain?

    I have thought about some kind of refridgeration system - only speculating though!
    No trees were harmed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were displaced and terribly inconvenienced.

  12. #12
    Theoretical Element Spud1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    North West
    Posts
    6,916
    Thanks
    242
    Thanked
    245 times in 192 posts
    • Spud1's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Mac Pro
      • CPU:
      • 2x 2.8ghz Quad Core Xeons (octo-core)
      • Memory:
      • 4gb DDR2 FB-Dimm
      • Storage:
      • 1x1TB, 1x320gb, 2x500gb, 1x250gb, 120GB SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Nvidia Geforce 560Ti
      • PSU:
      • Mac pro PSU
      • Case:
      • Mac Pro Case
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8
      • Monitor(s):
      • 1x22" LG 3D TFT 1x 19" ViewSonic
      • Internet:
      • 80mb BT Infinity
    ok first htings first, 50°C aint too bad under load. hell i ran my 2800+ at 60°C for months with zero problems.

    but as for your qn about pelitiers, they are very effective at cooling, and fairly cheap compared to phase change(vapochill) - a full system costs about £200 total (pelitiers require watercooling, a peltier PSU and the actaul peltier block). The biggest issue is installing the damn thing. You have to make your whole mobo and PC condenstation proof - thats a big job, if you miss anything out you will fry your PC. That said it will give you negative temps on your CPU =) check out www.over-clock.co.uk, in the pelitier section of their shop theres a link with LOTS of info on it

  13. #13
    Senior Member SilentDeath's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    4,745
    Thanks
    38
    Thanked
    16 times in 11 posts
    Get watercooling (not a kit!!!). Use a heatercore for the res, or make a passive one form opper piping. then get an old freezer and use that to chill the water. You can set the thermostat so that it doesnt drop below ambient and you get no condensation problems. also the heatercore would help cool down the room (if you left it connected with the freezer there). Leaving the heatercore would be pointless if you had the freezer's condensor heating up your room, a second w/c loop for that would be good and stick the heatercore from that outside where the niose wont annoy you

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. peltier cooling
    By djstevieb in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-03-2004, 02:38 AM
  2. Water cooling graphics cards
    By Pikey in forum Graphics Cards
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 14-02-2004, 11:51 AM
  3. Artic Cooling VGA silencer? any others?
    By Tomahawk in forum Graphics Cards
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 18-01-2004, 12:24 AM
  4. Question about NB cooling (pretty urgent!)
    By KPeh in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 09-10-2003, 03:09 PM
  5. Water cooling noobie needs help.
    By yan816 in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 30-07-2003, 08:05 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •