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    Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    Hey basically I have quite an old computer and I just need it to last me another year. It is a prebuilt system I got 6/7 years ago so it is very old and I need a new psu and motherboard as the psu is massively underpowered and my current motherboard is on the way out (the heatsink keeps dropping of it and I keep on having to stick it back on with thermal tape). The mobo I have at the moment is a
    ASUSTek Computer Inc. P4SD-VX, as it is OEM it is really hard to get much info about it off the internet. The mobo I am looking at getting at the moment is here: (it's my first post so can't put URLs in, so just add WWW to the text below.

    scan.co.uk/Products/ASRock-ASR-P4I65GV-MOBO-S478


    I know next to nothing about PCs and I just want to know that all of the current components I have will be compatable with this new mobo (the ASrock one).

    I am pretty certain my current CPU will be fine with it, it is a 2.8ghz p4 Northword 800mhz FSB. This mobo is the correct socket and supports 800FSB with HT so that should be fine.

    What I am worried about is whether the RAM, Hard drive and the disk drives I have at the moment with be compatable.

    My current RAM is DDR, which is the memory this mobo requires but the RAM I have at the moment is 200mhz and on the specs for the mobo it says DDR 266, 333 or 400. So will my old RAM work with this, if it doesn't I am not too fussed about buying new cheap stuff that will work as it ain't that much.

    The other concern is all of my drives. My hard drive and my DVD RW and DVD ROM plus my floppy all have an IDE interface. Will all of that work with this motherboard, I mean will it support all of that?

    Finally, last question, I think I caused the heatsink problem on my last mobo when I fitted a 6600gt a couple of years ago. Do you think there is enough room between heatsink and AGP slot on this new mobo to fit my 6600gt. There is a picture of the mobo on the scan page I posted above.

    Also my mate has a HD 3850 he is thinking of giving to me, do you reckon that would fit on the mobo without interfering with the heatsink as well?

    Sorry for this long post, even if someone could just answer one or two of the questions that would be a great help and just any problems they think I might have changing to this mobo.

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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    Spending £45 ish on an old system doesn't see any benefits in my eyes. I'd say you could do much better on eBay. Probably around £10-£30 for a decent working socket 478 motherboard.

    IDE slots are always universal so your IDE stuff will work. Not sure how many IDE slots socket 478 motherboards tend to come with but the one you linked comes with 2.

    Graphics cards face downwards when installed so I don't see how it won't fit, especially when there's not even a heatsink on the southbridge if that's what you mean. Same applies to the 3850 too but just checking it is an AGP card right?

    The only thing I'm unsure about is RAM, however, even though I'm guessing, I'm pretty sure it will work.

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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    You can pick up a full ex-business PC (HP and/or Dell) on ebay for a little over the price of that mobo. P4, 1 Gb of RAM, etc.

    Depending on what you want to do with the PC, that would be the route I'd be taking.
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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    If you can't afford a complete upgrade, ebay is your friend. I certainly wouldn't spend £45 on a new socket 478 mobo. I think you have 3 real options:

    1) take the plunge and build a complete new rig now. It'll cost more that just the mobo (obviously) but you can build a computer that'll be good for 3 - 4 years for ~ £300 if you shop carefully.

    2) Get a used mobo off ebay. You should be able to pick something up for < £20, and that's reasonable for a one year stand-in (but check that a conventional mATX mobo will fit your case if its OEM equipment...).

    3) I might possibly consider one of these, with 2GB DDR2 and something like a Radeon HD4650 (anything higher will be CPU bottlenecked) - that would give you a midway point between between the two options with much better performance than buying the ASRock motherboard but at lower cost that a complete new build - also you could sell the rest of the old PC to recoup some of the cost. However

    The issue is, whatever you do, any significant upgrade will end up being bottlenecked by your processor. So an AGP 3850 might improve your framerates slightly, but it'll mostly be sitting there twiddling unused transistors (and sucking at your power supply) because your aging p4 can't feed it fast enough. So if you're literally looking to get through a maximum of one year, turn your eyes to ebay and stick with your trusty 6600. Otherwise, take a deep breath and commit £300 - £400 to a new build which will last you much longer.

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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    if your going to replace the board i would go for this

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ASUS-P4P800-MX...item2ea9f97946

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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    I have used that Mobo a few times to repair s478 Pc's
    Usualy all you need to do is swap it over boot it up and do a repair install ( XP )
    The best way with the RAM is to put it in and see if works
    I think you could swap the Northbridge chipset for a lower one (I can check the if you need this as i still have one in a pc )
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/AKASA...bridge-and-GPU
    But you may find it will clash with the 6600gt (I thought the fan was on the PCI slot side )
    If the HD3850 is AGP (PCI ?) and not PCIe it will work but IMO your better off with the 6600GT in an old system
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    Re: Advice on OLD mobo (socket 478)

    Yeah, think I might just go for the new heatsink. I sussed out why my 6600gt loosened my mobo heatsink ... the gpu has a heatsink on top as well as a heatsink and fan below for some reason ..... seriously not cool lol.

    Anyway thanks for all your help!

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