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    Spec me a server

    This is all just planning in advance but i thought i'd better start getting a feel of things when the time comes.

    I need a new server for when i move into my new house (once it's built) and my old dell pc is to noisy for the task.

    What i'm planning to do is install mediaportal on it so it can record channels without having to have my main HTPc/gaming pc on.
    It will also be where i keep all my movie back ups so it needs lots of hdd.

    Now what i think i might be asking for could be to much so i might need to compromise a bit.

    I want it to be a quiet and as cheap as possible so at first i thought a Atom setup might do it but i need to have lots of sata ports (most only have two) and i need a couple of pci slots for the tv cards.

    This then means i reckon i'll have to use a AMD setup and i have no idea where to start on amd. I don't know what produce the least heat!

    RAM wise i was thinking of only 2gb unless you think i might need more.

    Case i don't really kno where to start but as small as possible would be nice but i'm aware i want it to be quiet and have lots of rooms for HDD's (prob about 6) so i understand that may not be possible.

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    Re: Spec me a server

    AM3 DDR3 motherboard with 10 SATA ports:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...-SATA-RAID-ATX

    AM3 DDR3 motherboard with 8 SATA ports:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158608

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...-SATA-RAID-ATX

    AM2+ DDR2 motherboard with 8 SATA ports:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/GIGABYTE-GA-MA790X-UD3P

    I would go for the 45W AMD Athlon II X2 235e:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

    I would look on Ebuyer and Scan for the appropriate RAM.

    I would be looking at the following DDR3:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128494

    I would be looking at the following DDR2:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119223

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/142405

    Edit!!

    You probably need a graphics card too.

    One of these should do the job

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512MB...-DL-DVI-I-HDMI

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512MB...-DL-DVI-I-HDMI

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512MB...VI-I-HDTV-HDCP

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176818

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169294

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176556

    Also you need to look at a case which has enough bays and cooling for the hard disks too.

    I would look at the following:

    SilverStone TJ05S-X

    http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.asp

    Xclio Blackhawk

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Xclio...-Black-w-o-PSU
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    Re: Spec me a server

    This is supposedly the best Dual DVB-T card out there:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/PEAK-DUAL-DV...2352894&sr=8-5

    Very stable, works with sleep states well and can handle two cards (meaning 4 tuners) in one system.

    To get a bunch of drives in a system, look at the SATA hot swap cages, you can get up to five 3.5" drives in three 5.25" bays with these.

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Shop/Computer-...Caddies-(SATA)

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    Re: Spec me a server

    Best cheap case for LOTS of hard drives, Sharkoon Rebel 12
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Rebel...wless-mounting

    it takes 6 in internal bays and has 11x 5.25" bays so you can fit in 3 drive caddies for an additional 12 drives and still have 2x 5.25" bays spare for a cd/dvd drive and card reader or simular.

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    Re: Spec me a server

    If you can cope with one PCI slot (or you don't mind playing with riser cards) jetway do a variety of mini-itx motherboards that will accept a SATA Add-On board that provides 4-port RAID. This Atom board will take the module, giving you 6 SATA ports (4 supporting raid).

    If money was no object you could stick it all in one of these rack cases, with a laptop or SSD drive (or bootable CF card if you really want to ) for the OS and 4 x 3.5" in the hotswap bays for storage. That case also has a dual PCI riser, so you'd get your 2 PCI slots as well! It costs a lot but the feature set is phenomenal...

    EDIT: Incidentally, you can get a Dual Core version of that motherboard, too
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    Re: Spec me a server

    Try looking at a cheap but overclockable am2+ motherboard, preferably with on board video. If it gives you good voltage control options you should be able to underclock and undervolt a cheap am2 cpu.
    Most enthusuast boards have plenty of sata ports as standard and it will give you plenty of options for a cpu.
    I saw something online (think it was tomshardware) a fair while back where they underclocked an athlon to 1.x ghz and it drew similar power to the atom while giving better performance.
    I've read that crystalcpuid is good for helpling underclocking but not tried it myself.

    try reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ower,2036.html to see if it helps.
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    Re: Spec me a server

    Thanks guys but i think i may have had a bit of a brainwave.

    Becausce at the same time i'll be getting this i'll also be upgrading my current pc.

    So i can reuse most of the parts and underclock the Q6600 to keep it cool.

    All i need then is a case, psu and dvd drive i think.

    Quite tempted by one of these.

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    Re: Spec me a server

    Nice looking cases, but they're a little lacking in hard drive bays perhaps?

    Good call on resuing / underclocking your existing rig though - I'd undervolt as well (if your mobo allows it) as this reduces heat and power usage more (clock speed has a linear relationship to power draw / heat while voltage has an exponential (squared, in fact) relationship).

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    Re: Spec me a server

    Yes only 2 hard drives makes it a bit weak as a server case.

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    Re: Spec me a server

    Ah. Didn't see that. Only chose it because it was quiet.

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    Re: Spec me a server

    If you want quite you just need a case that can take a few low rpm 120mm fans, eg some 1000rpm sharkoon system fans http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/120mm...dB(A)-Case-Fan or Silverstone FN122 http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/120mm...bearing-design

    If you went for the rebel 12 you can even use 140mm 900rpm fans which are very quite and still give a decent air flow eg http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/140-S...-900rpm-22db(A)

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