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    Hmmm.

    What are these Core i3;s like? Im stuck between a decision of

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...lti-65W-Retail

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    http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduc...odid=CP-311-IN

    Halp

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Havn't used these chips but rumour has it that AMD rules this performance segment.....

    http://www.madshrimps.be/vbulletin/f...parison-68976/
    Last edited by kmac; 14-01-2010 at 11:31 AM. Reason: Link added

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune117 View Post
    What are these Core i3;s like? Im stuck between a decision of

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...lti-65W-Retail

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    http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduc...odid=CP-311-IN

    Halp
    TBH,you just got an upgrade and wasting money changing your computers bits every few months is not very cost effective at all. With a Core i3 you would need a new motherboard and DDR3 RAM.

    My advice is to wait another year until you get a new CPU as the £100 CPUs available at that time will be probably faster.

    If you play games perhaps a new graphics card would be more appropriate.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    TBH,you just got an upgrade
    Ooooh, no he didn't!

    You'd get more for your money with a Phenom II X2, unless you use heavily multithreaded programs a lot (in which case you've also got the option of an Athlon II X3). The i3s are OK, but they're comparitively expensive, the motherboards are comparitively expensive (£70 for the cheapest), and all told AMD still offer better value at the budget end. If you're going to build a new system AMD still looks like a better bet than Intel.

    I still reckon you're better off overclocking a Celeron E3300 though - it'd be a cheaper upgrade in the short term and save you money which could be put towards a complete new build in the future.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Ooooh, no he didn't!

    You'd get more for your money with a Phenom II X2, unless you use heavily multithreaded programs a lot (in which case you've also got the option of an Athlon II X3). The i3s are OK, but they're comparitively expensive, the motherboards are comparitively expensive (£70 for the cheapest), and all told AMD still offer better value at the budget end.
    Yes they did!! The OP just upgraded from a P4 to a Core2 E7600.

    Edit!! I am confused now:

    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...ml#post1853351

    The OP said they retracted their order for an E7600 and yet their signature says they have got one.

    My viewpoint it is better for the OP to upgrade their existing processor by getting a Q8300 for around £105:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158333
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 14-01-2010 at 01:26 PM.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Yes they did!! The OP just upgraded from a P4 to a Core2 E7600.
    He cancelled the E7600 order - there's a thread about it around here somewhere...

    EDIT: here it is

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    He cancelled the E7600 order - there's a thread about it around here somewhere...

    EDIT: here it is
    I edited my previous post. I suggest that the OP get a Q8300 from Ebuyer.

    This should extend the life of their current system for gaming.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I edited my previous post. I suggest that the OP get a Q8300 from Ebuyer.
    Ninja edits FTW!!

    Good find on the Q8300, but it looks like it's the only one in stock. The OP will need to be quick to get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Ninja edits FTW!!

    Good find on the Q8300, but it looks like it's the only one in stock. The OP will need to be quick to get it!
    Scan have them for a few quid more too.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Well, would I get more of a performance boost in WoW from a new graphics card or new processor? Becuase if its the graphics card I might just get the 1gb edition of the 4870 from ocuk.

    Discuss

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune117 View Post
    Well, would I get more of a performance boost in WoW from a new graphics card or new processor? Becuase if its the graphics card I might just get the 1gb edition of the 4870 from ocuk.

    Discuss
    If you have a P4 it would be a huge bottleneck in performance so I would upgrade the CPU first. Secondly it would be wiser to go with an HD5770 as you have a ColoursIT PSU.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Sorry for the confusion before cat.

    Just had a look at the quad core. went out of stock as I was about to buy it D:

    What else would you reccomend?

    And also, as to the Overclocking E3300

    a) I havent overclocked my system before
    b) Isnt there more room for the processor to break if I overclock it? (I have a Zalman CNP9000 aftermarket fan so cooling isnt an option)
    c) Dont I need a better PSU than I have to overclock it?

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune117 View Post
    Sorry for the confusion before cat.

    Just had a look at the quad core. went out of stock as I was about to buy it D:

    What else would you reccomend?

    And also, as to the Overclocking E3300

    a) I havent overclocked my system before
    b) Isnt there more room for the processor to break if I overclock it? (I have a Zalman CNP9000 aftermarket fan so cooling isnt an option)
    c) Dont I need a better PSU than I have to overclock it?
    It is on Scan for a few quid more:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?W...source=froogle

    Also,I would consider getting a better PSU if you intend to get a graphics card like an HD4870.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    But wouldnt the 3.06GhZ c2d perform better? Because most programs arent coded to use all 4 cores?

    Im so confused atm

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune117 View Post
    But wouldnt the 3.06GhZ c2d perform better? Because most programs arent coded to use all 4 cores?

    Im so confused atm
    Most games are not CPU limited and more and more games are going to take advantage of multiple cores in the next few years.

    A quad core is a better buy in the long term IMHO! However even a highly clocked dual core should be fine in most cases still but I would not be paying nearly £100 for one as you can get quad cores at around the price.

    OTH,if you want a cheap upgrade I would get an E5400:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Intel...B-Cache-Retail

    You should be able to get this upto 3GHZ at least quite easily from what I have heard.

    I would also get a 9800GT Green Edition as an upgrade:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173758

    It is bus powered and should not tax your PSU too much.

    I think that a mildly overclocked E5400 and a 9800GT Green Edition would be an effective use of your budget TBH.

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    Re: Hmmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fortune117 View Post
    And also, as to the Overclocking E3300

    a) I havent overclocked my system before
    b) Isnt there more room for the processor to break if I overclock it? (I have a Zalman CNP9000 aftermarket fan so cooling isnt an option)
    c) Dont I need a better PSU than I have to overclock it?
    a) Don't worry, it's nowhere near as scary as it sounds and Hexus's own Clunk has done a really handy beginner's guide!
    b) If you try pushing your CPU too hard there's always a chance of something going wrong with it, but it's nowhere near as dangerous as some (many?) people suggest. Your Zalman cooler is good, is will actually make it *easier* to overclock your CPU as it should provide better cooling than a stock fan and heat is one of the biggest problems in overclocking. One of the reasons I suggested the E3300 is that it runs very cool to start with so there's less risk of it overheating when you overclock it.
    c) Overclocking a CPU does make it draw more power, but you need to compare that with the design power of the processor. Your P4 3.06, based on the information I can find, has a design power of 84W. The E3300 only has a design power of 65W, so you have a "spare" 19W to play with just based on design power. Also E3300 reviews suggest it actually draws a lot less than 65W at full load anyway, so you may have more than that. So the fact that your review is powering an 84W CPU already means that it will have some headroom for overclocking a 65W E3300.

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