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    not very sharp graphics with the onboard geforce4mx + LCD?

    not very sharp graphics with the onboard geforce4mx + LCD?

    I purchased a shuttle with onboard geforce4mx and a 17” LG screen, I have installed all the drivers but it does not look that sharp on the screen, a tad blurred, could this be down to the onboard graphics? Do I need to change anything? I might be able to get rad 9200 to chuck in there? Is this my best bet? – I may have to wait a week or so!

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    Should be fine Bobby, could be a problem with the monitor? What resolution and refresh rate do you have it set at? 1280x1024 @ 75Hz should be fine in my opinion. If its not at those settings i mentioned then try them


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    i tried the 1280 x 1024 but were a little small for most work so i have it set on 1024, just does not seem quite as sharp as mine.. but might be just me... i will play around with a few options when i get home........ ....DRP have you herd anything about 'burning in time' for TFT's? someone said you need to burn them in whatever that means?

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    Nah mate, that isn't an issue with TFT's as far as im concerned o0 With mine when i got it, pull it out of the packaging, plonk on the desk, plug in and as crsip as it should be. No messing. As far as I know, the 'burn-in' period is only applicable to CRT's


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    ok fair enough, thought i would check, yeah i just looked at the doc's that came with the tft, i think i know what i need to do in windows, to get the best out of her!

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    Whack up the amount of shared memory the onboard graphics uses. Also, when I used the onboard graphics on an NF7-M i once had (same thing) I also got a very blurred picture. It only looks fine at low resolutions. It's is the 440MX after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeZZeR
    Whack up the amount of shared memory the onboard graphics uses. Also, when I used the onboard graphics on an NF7-M i once had (same thing) I also got a very blurred picture. It only looks fine at low resolutions. It's is the 440MX after all

    yeah i think i have had this before with a shuttle about a year ago... what size shall i wack it upto?

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    If you just give it a try @ 64MB shared to start with, then see how it goes mate. Trial and error is the way


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    ok bud will have a crack and try a few things when i get home, thanks chaps!

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    Also bear in mind that TFTs have a nasty tendency to look blurry at anything other than their native resolution; your 17" is designed with 1280x1024 pixels so it's always going to look "right" at that res and "wrong" at any other. Rather than change the resolution to deal with text being too small, use display properties, Settings, Advanced and use either large fonts or the custom setting to scale the fonts to the desired size. Then you can have a nice sharp display AND usable text

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    Quote Originally Posted by nichomach
    Also bear in mind that TFTs have a nasty tendency to look blurry at anything other than their native resolution; your 17" is designed with 1280x1024 pixels so it's always going to look "right" at that res and "wrong" at any other. Rather than change the resolution to deal with text being too small, use display properties, Settings, Advanced and use either large fonts or the custom setting to scale the fonts to the desired size. Then you can have a nice sharp display AND usable text
    thanks mate i did not know that..

    here is the link to the product..

    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=46761

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    Yeah you shouldn't get any problems with that model mate, i know quite a few with them. Play around with the appearance settings at 1280x1024 and you should get it sorted


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Sixkiller
    thanks mate i did not know that..

    here is the link to the product..

    http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=46761
    Quite a lot of people don't - you'd be surprised at how many users I get saying things like "I changed the resolution on my laptop and now it looks fuzzy- can you fix it?". Nice looking screen; analogue only, but then using the onboard GFX w/that shuttle, you've only got an analogue 15 pin VGA port anyway, so it doesn't hurt any.

    It boils down to the difference between CRTs and LCDs. CRTs essentially "project" a continuously redrawn image (line by line) onto your screen (which is why if you set the refresh WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too low for comfort you'll see a line moving down the screen) like your TV, whereas LCDs are composed of a given number of pixels which are activated individually. A CRT doesn't really care about whether the image it's throwing is 800x600 or 1024x768 or whatever, since it doesn't know about pixels or indeed resolutions - all it knows about is the image, which has already been converted to an analogue composite signal, that it's being asked to display. Actually, see HERE for a better explanation than I can give you in a paragraph, and HERE for TFTs.
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    analog wont really matter. its the res thats your problem - whack it up to 1280. sit nearer your screen if its too small, or failing that make your fonts bigger.
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    My text is fine in 1280, have the same screen... Maybe a pair of spectacles will do the trick for you?

    I say go with native resolution, youre not gonna get there any other way I think.. Thats the world of tft's i guess. But its well worth it!

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    for some reason 1024 looks the best.. duno why!

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