PSU Recommendation

[Pob255]

So basically you don't know if you are getting an old or new version of the ModXStream. At least Antec add "new" to their latest designs. It does not really instil any confidence TBH!



Like the fact that "Trec" brand capacitors are still being used,right??

No, because if you read the review link I posted this newer version uses Teapo

Also modd1uk knows someones who works for a company who distributes OCZ PSUs and it seems that there have been some issues.

If industrial and OEM components use Japanese capacitors for critical parts (these are NOT marketing driven decisions BTW) then I think they are a safer choice. Even the industrial mini ITX motherboard I got recently only seems to use Japanese made capacitors. Again this is not a marketing driven decision. This ties in what I have seen in other non-computer areas too.

Yes I know that, there are major quality differences, also research differences, the whole swathe of cheap bad capacitors we had a few of years back, which went on for a long time, was due to a bit of indrustrial espionage, where a japanese capacitor "recipe" was stolen, the problem was it was only part of the recipe not the full recipe, this was sold to the Taiwanese and then a couple of years later to the Chinese, which is what lead to a lot of the bad cap's out there (but not all of them)

Teapo has done a heck of a lot to improve their quality over the last few years and IS now rated as highly as the japanese by many although it's still trying to fully recover from the bad rep all Taiwanese companies got over the dodge capacitor recipe.

The dodge capacitor recipe was also the root problem of many of the FSP epsilon psu's in the past and the dodgy CWT PSU's
As well as the Bad Hipper PSU's which they never fully recovered from.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

No, because if you read the review link I posted this newer version uses Teapo

The review was from the end of Feburary 2010. So how do you know which one you are getting? Old ModXStream stock from the previously used OEM or new ModXStream stock from the new OEM?

Is there a change in the product code which enables us to find out what version is being sold? Why couldn't they have been marked as ModXStream II or something like that?

Yes I know that, there are major quality differences, also research differences, the whole swathe of cheap bad capacitors we had a few of years back, which went on for a long time, was due to a bit of indrustrial espionage, where a japanese capacitor "recipe" was stolen, the problem was it was only part of the recipe not the full recipe, this was sold to the Taiwanese and then a couple of years later to the Chinese, which is what lead to a lot of the bad cap's out there (but not all of them)

Teapo has done a heck of a lot to improve their quality over the last few years and IS now rated as highly as the japanese by many although it's still trying to fully recover from the bad rep all Taiwanese companies got over the dodge capacitor recipe.

The dodge capacitor recipe was also the root problem of many of the FSP epsilon psu's in the past and the dodgy CWT PSU's
As well as the Bad Hipper PSU's which they never fully recovered from.

There was also the issue with substandard aluminium foil being used in some Taiwanese or Chinese capacitors.

The thing is that Teapo is still a bit of unknown longterm bet IMHO when compared to the Japanese companies who still have a better track record in general. The same goes with OST which is also used quite widely too.

Anyway I will a keep a lookout to see how the newer capacitors seem to perform. It is useful to know these things(thanks for that).

As with any of my recommendations I tend to err on the side of caution(as you probably know by now).

[Pob255]

Sorry for the confusion there CAT, I agree you don't know which version/OEM you are getting.
I was replying mainly to your comment

Like the fact that "Trec" brand capacitors are still being used,right??

In that Trec cap are no longer being used in OCZ psu's, but you could get an old one which does have them in it.

I err on the side of caution too, I think the modxstream from amazon will have to be scrubed from the list, although I'd trust the modxstream from ebuyer more as they've only just restocked after a long while without any in so the chances of them being the newer model is far higher.

[Stringent]

Don't mind the derail!

Will make a plunge for one following week. I have temporarily found a 400W PSU which works for the moment (and I wanted to see if it really is the PSU). But not ideal, not enough power connectors, no SATA power (had to use adapter) and can't connect CD Drive up cos the lead isn't long enough, the other two molex are powering the 4770.

So this PC is on life support for a little while.

[Blitzen]

The Corsair HX620W would be an excellent choice.

Cheers

Paul

There are quite a few i would go for before that.
It's a seriously overpriced unit.

[vincent.m]

slightly related to a PSU problem, i want to have 3 monitors, but i know the gfx card only has two outputs. i wanted to know if i added just another cheapo card, to my computer will it be ok? i mean literally just to display websites and maybe some work. i think my board does have sli but i have never used it. will my operating system recognise that i have two cards running independently and will i be able to just use it as normal? i.e. same as if it was two but just one on the other side as well?

[Stringent]

slightly related to a PSU problem, i want to have 3 monitors, but i know the gfx card only has two outputs. i wanted to know if i added just another cheapo card, to my computer will it be ok? i mean literally just to display websites and maybe some work. i think my board does have sli but i have never used it. will my operating system recognise that i have two cards running independently and will i be able to just use it as normal? i.e. same as if it was two but just one on the other side as well?

You can add another card into a PCI Express slot and then use up to 4, or you can add normal PCI cards and Windows will recognise them. Or you could get that ATI card which has just been released with 6 outputs.

[vincent.m]

thanks for the reply, i cant recomment Corsair enough, their design and colour system makes the insides look pretty stylish, and mine makes no noise whatso ever

[12GaugeShotty]

I got a seasonic 750-x, there is a 650w model as well which will be more than enough, even with the potential upgrades.

It modular and really quiet.

And expensive. I debated the X650 but I don't like the price nor the fact that the fan doesn't spin at all until there is a load put on it (gaming, etc). That means quiet but that means heat build up in one spot.

[atifds9]

I can highly recommend the be quiet range which is silent in my set up and modular.