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    spec me a hoover?

    Our current vacuum cleaner has just died, so i guess we need a new one. i understand the dyson stuff is the best but.....which one?

    just few things.

    no set budget but lower cost preferred.
    reliability is a must, something that can take a beating
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgy291 View Post
    Our current vacuum cleaner has just died, so i guess we need a new one. i understand the dyson stuff is the best but.....which one?

    just few things.

    no set budget but lower cost preferred.
    reliability is a must, something that can take a beating
    Dyson best? You'll find a LOT of people that don't agree with that.

    "Best" is probably Kirby, but they are heavy and very expensive.

    Personally, I'm fond of Sebo. They're not as heavily built as Kirby and nowhere near as expensive, but still certainly not at the budget end of the market. They are, in my experience, very good though.

    I'm tried others, including Hoover, Panasonic, Jitachi and Electrolux and ended up with a Sebo, which is the first one I've really been happy with. I've avoided Dyson, because several friends have had experience with silly bits breaking after a couple of years and being either expensive to repair or beyond economic repair cost.

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    We've currently got a 1600W Vax cyclonic, picked up refurb off Bolton Market 2.5 years ago, it's had one belt change just after we first bought it (I assume the original belt was faulty, but had no way to prove it and the new belts were only about a fiver for 2, so not worse the hassle of making a scene over). Otherwise it has been absolutely fantastic. Can't find the exact model on google, but I should imagine any Vax upright of similar spec would be equally good...

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Henry.

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Get a Henry... the one with a face on it. very simple design, nothing much goes wrong with it. I have had a Dyson, it was rubbish, expensive, heavy, does get lots of dust up, however hair and larger things clog it up, very complex shape, made it very difficult to clean out. Motor eventually died on it, not possible to replace that. The Top of the dust chamber collects fine dust around the nozzles and you cannot clean it without the use of a hex screwdriver and alot of time. Worst of all, if what your cleaning is damp... it utterly messes it up.

    A Henry.... the black bit of top BIG BIG BIG fan, under it a washable filter, under that a ... horror "bag"... tube goes straight into it. So if its not in the tube its in the bag, job done. yes bags cost money however the dyson was 2.5 times the price. Having a bag is good, it means you don't have to clean lots of dust filters there also are in the Dyson etc. You throw the bag away and the thing is as good as new.

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    I originally bought the Henry as a DIY Vac as I could not use the Dyson for that, the Dyson died we got a bagless electrolux, which infact was better than the Dyson, the "smoke" came of of that one, and the Henry is still going, so we didn't bother getting anything else, the bags are very cheap and easily available(one problem with some vac is getting spare bags [which is why I went bagless]). Henry bags are also Huge, so you have use it far longer before you have to even think about changing it.
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    +1 for the Kirby, they are very durable and very good but are also very heavy and expensive, it is also hard to get in the corners with them, but they come with lots of accessories to make it easier...

    They also have a "lighter" hand-held version of the vacuum which is still kinda heavy but not as bad.

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    I'll echo what Saracen said, Dyson = crap for many reasons.

    And I'll echo what mycarsavw said, Henry = FTW. I have one and that thing has fallen down my wooden stairs 3 times and come off without a scratch.

    Another option would be Miele, we had one for about 8-9 years before it just decided not to turn on anymore, but was good while it was working.

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    All the advice in this thread is crap becasue none of it takes into consideration type of flooring.

    Tell us when you want to do, then we can recommend

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    All the advice in this thread is crap becasue none of it takes into consideration type of flooring.

    Tell us when you want to do, then we can recommend
    My Henry works just fine on carpets, kitchen floors, wooden floors, outside on the patio, walls, stairs, porch, banisters, mantels, windows ceils (and things else like these around the house), cars and garages. Also Dyson killers like, picking up bits of damp stripped wall paper, paster, concrete, polyfilter (damp), paint (both inside and outside). The only thing is doesn't to is wash carpets. It will be any Dyson hands down in total cost of ownership and performance during that time. Something else you want to clean.
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    My Henry works just fine on carpets, kitchen floors, wooden floors, outside on the patio, walls, stairs, porch, banisters, mantels, windows ceils (and things else like these around the house). The only thing is doesn't to is wash carpets. It will be any Dyson hands down in total cost of ownership and performance during that time.
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Quote Originally Posted by mycarsavw View Post
    ...and it has a face!
    Indeed! I think the face is great. Only same is they make them out of plastic these days rather than the orginal metal one I used 20 years ago. That shows you how good the original design was.
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    as for the surface, normal house carpets and a well another carpet in the living room. so not much variation

    and parents seem to prefere something bag less....means no henry?
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Our old electrolux died after 10 years hard graft recently, so did the manly thing and phoned my Mum, she cleans houses for a living and has used every make under the sun. Her advice was get a Henry, some of the ones she uses are 15+ years old, and you can get the bits if theres a problem. They do different models for different floors, but she tends to use the standard Henry most of the time. The only breakdown with a Henry shes had resulted from it boucing down some stairs. She also rates vax and miele, but tends to stick with henry due to the simple bombproof construction, and ease of getting parts, and ease of fitting them. We picked one up for around £70 in Currys, really impressed with howquiet it is suking ability, its also easier to move around than the old upright, and has 2 power settings.

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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    hoovers you have to push around yourself ? how quaint

    I to like my roomba , but supliment it with a small vax for things like stairs which the roomba doesn't do.
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    Re: spec me a hoover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgy291 View Post
    and parents seem to prefere something bag less....means no henry?
    You need to ask them why they think that?

    1) They think it will be cheaper not to by bags. You can buy many more bags for a Henry you than you will ever need with the change you will get from not buying a Dyson.

    2) The reason most people like bagless, as I found with the first vacuum I bought, a Hoover, bags can be very difficult to find. This was the time before e-tailors sold everything, and we put up with years of using bags for something else and did not quite fit. However one day the smoke came out of it and it stopped working. So I though... next vacuum lets get a bagless one, and yes they did not have that problem however had so many other ones. Henrys have not changed you can get the bags everywhere, even non Numatic clone ones, and they are dirt cheap.

    3) Loss of sucking power. Most bag Vaccums suck, end on into the bag. This is why Jimmy Dyson says they lose power, Stuff builds up at the end of the bag so it gets harder and hard to draw into the back. The henry sucks through the side of the bag, so they is much more surface to draw through and unless the bag is full the surface is clear. I have found Dysons lose power alot, there are lots of little holes that build up fine dust, the entrance to the big area collects hair blocking the hole, to get into the drop box, it has to go throuh 2 different bends the lower one fills will cat litter.

    4) Dysons are VERY heavy GF refused to carry it upstairs. My dad had a Dyson too, my mom also refused to carry it up the stairs as it was so heavy (and got an upstairs vac as well). My Dad got rid of his and got a Henry (independantly of me) and is very happy with it now, because he disliked it so much, and my father was the President of the IChemE, so for him to dump a piece of engineering like that it must be bad.

    5) People buy Dysons because they think they are cool (many friends commented about our one), they are wonderful pieces of design, they just are a pain to use. Just as many friends comment about our Henry saying the think the face is great/fun. Now I can tell them its also a great vacuum rather than warn them off one as I did with the Dyson.
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