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    Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Hi, ive decided to go and upgrade to an i5 750, ive been having performance issues. FPS's still play ok on my Q6600 but on games like Napoleon Total War and SupCom it can get really laggy. i also do a fair amount of video encoding so the extra speed would be appreciated

    Incase i didnt update my rig since i was last here this is my current spec

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    Gigabyte P35-DS3L
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    Moving to Socket 1156 means i need to replace my mobo and RAM correct?

    Currently i am looking at these two motherboards

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-1156-P7..._bxgy_ce_img_b

    or

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Gigab...SATAIIRAID-ATX

    Ive never had a bad experience with Asus or Gigabyte so i dont have brand preferance

    Memory

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/G-Skill-1600...625340&sr=1-18

    or

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-%...-9-24-XMP-165V


    Also the cheapest i can find the i5 750 is around £155 does anyone know where is best to buy it from?

    I am also looking for a third party heatsink to do some overclocking £30 would be the max budget, although id rather pay less if possible.

    Thanks for your help
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Hi Ares.

    I recently built my i5 rig, and its really good! £155 for the processor? No wai! I got mine for £114.99 ex VAT (£134.98 inc)!

    See:

    i5 @ £135
    http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/...roductId=37674

    Titan Fenrir @ £32
    http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/...roductId=39579

    Asus P7P55D-E @ £129
    http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=40043

    I have the Asus P7P55D-E (Which I also got from aria) but I got it for the same price as the one you linked from Amazon. They're really good with sorting you out deals, worth giving them a ring for a bundle price.

    [edit]: 1 thing to note the mb is really good - I've had no problems with it and its a great overclocker, but its completely useless if yuor thinking of going for an xfire setup in the future as the second PCI-E slot will run at x4. Also, if you run USB3 or SATA6Gb/s it will download the graphics cards PCI-E slot from x16 to x8. I have USB3/SATA3 disabled because I dont have a sata3 drive or any usb3 peripherals - but it defaults at sata3 and I noticed no realworld differences between x16 and x8.

    You'll want to get DDR3 Ram also yes.

    Also, I have the Titan Fenrir on my i5, and ran BC2 for about 3 hours on max settings with it clocked at 4.01Ghz and my temps didnt go over 42c. I haven't hardcore stress tested it yet - but the Titan Fenrir (currently £32 on special @ aria) gets great reviews.

    1 thing I will mention is, this CPU cooler and these mother boards can be a pain. I had to flip the fan and have it running on a pull system as opposed to push because the fan didnt fit in next to my Corsair Dominator RAM:



    Hope this helps!
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    I run Supreme Commander at 1680X1050 on a computer with a Q6600 at around 2.9GHZ and I don't seem to be getting any lag.


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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Callum1001 View Post
    Hi Ares.

    I recently built my i5 rig, and its really good! £155 for the processor? No wai! I got mine for £114.99 ex VAT (£134.98 inc)!

    Thanks for the links, really appreciated

    if you run USB3 or SATA6Gb/s it will download the graphics cards PCI-E slot from x16 to x8. I have USB3/SATA3 disabled because I dont have a sata3 drive or any usb3 peripherals - but it defaults at sata3 and I noticed no realworld differences between x16 and x8.
    yeh but thats the same for all P55 boards, ive got no money for X58

    Probably going to go for the Gigabyte board, it seems to get better overclocks on average

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I run Supreme Commander at 1680X1050 on a computer with a Q6600 at around 2.9GHZ and I don't seem to be getting any lag.
    Skirmish and single player is where i get issues, multiplayer is usually fine unless i get a player with a bad connection


    Is 7-7-7-24 Latency good enough for the memory? Or should i look for something a little higher spec?

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    What resolution are you playing games at?

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    My word of warning about the Asus P7P55D range is that quite a few of them are not x16/x8+x8
    ie two x16 slots but is both are used they drop to x8
    Quite a few of the P7P55d's are actually x4 electrical on the 2nd x16 slot.
    ie while the motherboard has two x16 slots the lower one runs at x4 reguardless.
    This makes them rather bad for sli or crossfire and the ability to do ether is a major feature of the p55 motherboards.

    Just double check which type a model is before you part with your cash
    http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=P7P55D

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirky View Post
    What resolution are you playing games at?
    1920x1200 i like lots of AA too, i dont see how it matters for a cpu upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    My word of warning about the Asus P7P55D range is that quite a few of them are not x16/x8+x8
    ie two x16 slots but is both are used they drop to x8
    Quite a few of the P7P55d's are actually x4 electrical on the 2nd x16 slot.
    ie while the motherboard has two x16 slots the lower one runs at x4 reguardless.
    This makes them rather bad for sli or crossfire and the ability to do ether is a major feature of the p55 motherboards.

    Just double check which type a model is before you part with your cash
    http://www.asus.com/Search.aspx?SearchKey=P7P55D
    Yeh i think all P55's have this issue, id like a motherboard where i could have x8/x8 but i cant afford, ive never done crossfire/sli before and am happy to stick with single cards if need be.
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Not all of them, of the original p7p55d the Pro, deluxe, evo and premium all had x8/x8
    simular for the p7p55d-e only the vanilla and LX versions lack it

    if you did want it then a cheap option is the ASRock P55 Extreme
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asroc...rboard-LGA1156

    Otherwise you're looking closer to £130, although there's still the msi p55-gd65 for £120
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/MSI-P...rboard-LGA1156

    Other than that, I'd think about looking at an AMD system insead.

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Have you considered an i7 system?

    IIRC, the gaming performance between i5/i7 (4Ghz for both) was minuscule, but for video encoding etc the hyperthreading on i7 processors makes a big difference. If you are going to be doing a lot of encoding an i7 could be worth the extra money.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    My GD-65 does the job brilliantly. Tiny bit of vdroop, but who cares, just up the voltage a bit. I'm at 3.7GHz and not too much higher than stock volts, so I already have a 1GHz+ overclock. It's cool and quiet, only running a single 120mm intake fan and 1 x 120mm and 1 x 140mm outtake fan.
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    If you're doing video encoding you'd be much better off with either a i7 8x0, or - to throw in a bit of a wildcard - a Phenom II X6.

    The X6 1055T easily outpaces an i5 750 in heavily multithreaded tasks like video encoding, and is not much more expensive - you can save at least the difference by going for a 790X-based motherboard (which also does x8 x8 for crossfire)...

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    But get the gigabyte board then, so much nicer
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    If you're doing video encoding you'd be much better off with either a i7 8x0, or - to throw in a bit of a wildcard - a Phenom II X6.

    The X6 1055T easily outpaces an i5 750 in heavily multithreaded tasks like video encoding, and is not much more expensive - you can save at least the difference by going for a 790X-based motherboard (which also does x8 x8 for crossfire)...
    Just touching on what your saying, 1055T slightly cheaper here

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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    That said you'll pay delivery with aria. Also, if you want to overclock the 1055T go for a motherboard that can maintain a high HTT as the multiplier isn't unlocked. In that respect, the gigabyte 790x-ud4p really is a winner as I think it hits 285mhz which for a 700series chipset board is fantastic.
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    I'd go with the hex-core if video encoding is on your list, possibly save some £££ on the motherboard as well.
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    Re: Upgrading to an i5 Suggestions?

    The gigabyte boards are on today only at scan:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=33759
    Although you may as well get this then:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=35938
    Probably a better deal afoot tbh...
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