ok to clear things up to start, im looking for a creative PCI-E soundcard with X-RAM, nothing else, no other makes.
i was originally looking at this one
Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro 7.1 Soundcard - PCI-Express
but then i spotted this one.
SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-Express - with DTS connector and 64Mb XRAM - Bulk
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it.
if its the same card i know where my moneys going
for years i have had the extreme music version and have been more than happy with it, but i need to go PCI-E so my SLI setup can have both cards running 16x.