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    The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    As the title says

    http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardwar...idia-for-amd/1

    This is highly amusing as physicsX is nvidia's biggest selling point
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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    That's interesting, other press releases that I read on that claimed he was hired by AMD to work on Fusion (I know AMD and ATI are essentially the same company, but I would think there would be more crowing by ATI if they'd actually got him in to work on a rival to Physx).

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    ATi fully support OpenCL (an open source physics on gpu engine) it's just that it has no support or backing atm.
    OpenCL did look like it was going to be a big thing, however the failier of OpenGL3 and then nVidia buying up PhysX has basically left it supportless and dead in the water atm.

    the last thing I want to see is ATi trying to push their own propriety physics engine.

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Actually opencl is a general use computing api, so a better parallel would be CUDA. Ati were supposedly porting the bullet physics engine to opencl, but I haven't heard anything for a while now.

    My money is on a physics engine on Microsoft's directcompute rather than open source on opencl, but either way I think it'll probably be a while before we see an alternative to physx actually being used in games for gpu based physics.

    It's a shame havok's effort seems to have stalled but I suspect that's been influenced by Intel's scaling back of it's discrete gpu project.

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgy291 View Post
    This is highly amusing as PhysX is nvidia's biggest selling point
    Is it?

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    Is it?
    its that and 3D vision but based on the other poll thread, no one cares
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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    I wouldn't say PhysX / 3D are their biggest selling points, but they are definitely the technologies nVidia tout as their Unique selling points. Although frankly this move won't make any difference at all nVidia's marketing of PhysX as it's a mature proprietary technology, and unless ATI employ a new head of Developer Relations, developing a rival physics engine will be pretty immaterial, because ATIs effort simply won't make it into enough games...

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    I highly doubt AMD would hire someone versed in Physics acceleration to work on silicon engineering problems.

    It's far more likely that he'll be tasked with developing a standard physics processing API, or porting an existing API to OpenCL. That way AMD can score kudos with developers by saying; "Hey look! we care about you and your customers, we've got an API you can influence the development of, as well as use as you see fit, on both AMD and nVidia cards, aren't we awesome?!".

    Lets face it, the nVidia kool-aid barrel is getting a bit thin these days, and it wouldn't be hard for AMD to gain some trump points.
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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    ... It's far more likely that he'll be tasked with developing a standard physics processing API ... use as you see fit, on both AMD and nVidia cards, aren't we awesome?!". ...
    I agree absolutely, I just don't think it'll do them any good unless they massively improve their developer relations team. Even if it is open and cross-hardware compatible, it'll still be seen as a rival to PhysX, and nVidia, with their already massively superior dev relations, will simply put more resources into pushing PhysX. So (IMNSHO, obviously) it will take better ATI dev rels to make this a significant move.

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgy291 View Post
    its that and 3D vision but based on the other poll thread, no one cares
    What about CUDA?

    The main reason I got NVIDIA was CUDA and the fact the drivers work.

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Quote Originally Posted by matty-hodgson View Post
    What about CUDA?

    The main reason I got NVIDIA was CUDA and the fact the drivers work.
    3/4 off windows BSODS are caused by nvidia drivers from what i read...............
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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    I wish my drivers worked. It's awful having to work out where to type when the entire screen is black.
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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgy291 View Post
    3/4 off windows BSODS are caused by nvidia drivers from what i read...............
    Just keeping you on your toes..

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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    What do you use cuda for? (I meant to ask this from Matty)

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    What do you use cuda for? (I meant to ask this from Matty)
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    Re: The founder off AGEIA leaves nvidia and moved to ATI

    CUDA is a computational library for nVidia cards. Basically an nVidia only OpenCL/DirectCompute.
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