SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
I'm planning my first build and have 90% decided on the following components
Lancool K58 case
Intel i7 920 D0
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Rev 2
Sapphire Radeon HD5770
6gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600mhz RAM
Antec True Power Modular 650w PSU
1tb Western Digital 6gb SATA 3 Hard Drive
These were chosen for compatibility, inclusion of USB & SATA 3 and so I could upgrade fairly cheaply in the future by adding GPU(s) in crossfire and further HDDs.
As I said this is my first build so I been feverishly genning up on various build sites when I came across an article that suggested that this Hard drive has; (1) issues with Win 7 and (2) possible conflict with the Marvell interface which reduces the SATA 3 transfer rates equivalent to SATA 2 rates.
Can any hardware gurus out there offer some such needed advice to a slightly confused build newbie.
Is it worth going the SATA 3 route or should I stick to SATA2
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
Getting a SATA3 hard drive isn't of any benefit at the moment, so don't spend over the odds for one. I'd not heard that about win 7 and the marvell interface - in fact the only tests I've seen with a device fast enough to show the difference seem to show that the controller is working faster than SATA2 speeds on win 7 (see reviews for micron/crucial real300 SSD).
Personally I am in favour of getting USB3 and Sata 6gbps - the former are needed for upcoming card readers and external hard drives, while the latter are needed for SSDs in the future. All of those are things I'm interested in. But you'll probably be able to get add-in cards so it's not the be all and end all.
However I wouldn't use crossfire as your means of upgrading in the future - crossfire/SLI is effective if you use it from the outset, but for upgrading you're nearly always better off just replacing the single card with a new generation single card.
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
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Originally Posted by
kalniel
Getting a SATA3 hard drive isn't of any benefit at the moment, so don't spend over the odds for one. I'd not heard that about win 7 and the marvell interface - in fact the only tests I've seen with a device fast enough to show the difference seem to show that the controller is working faster than SATA2 speeds on win 7 (see reviews for micron/crucial real300 SSD).
Personally I am in favour of getting USB3 and Sata 6gbps - the former are needed for upcoming card readers and external hard drives, while the latter are needed for SSDs in the future. All of those are things I'm interested in. But you'll probably be able to get add-in cards so it's not the be all and end all.
However I wouldn't use crossfire as your means of upgrading in the future - crossfire/SLI is effective if you use it from the outset, but for upgrading you're nearly always better off just replacing the single card with a new generation single card.
all of that.... exactly as he says it.
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
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Originally Posted by
Attila the Bun
I'm planning my first build and have 90% decided on the following components
Lancool K58 case
Intel i7 920 D0
Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R Rev 2
Sapphire Radeon HD5770
6gb Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600mhz RAM
Antec True Power Modular 650w PSU
1tb Western Digital 6gb SATA 3 Hard Drive
These were chosen for compatibility, inclusion of USB & SATA 3 and so I could upgrade fairly cheaply in the future by adding GPU(s) in crossfire and further HDDs.
As I said this is my first build so I been feverishly genning up on various build sites when I came across an article that suggested that this Hard drive has; (1) issues with Win 7 and (2) possible conflict with the Marvell interface which reduces the SATA 3 transfer rates equivalent to SATA 2 rates.
Can any hardware gurus out there offer some such needed advice to a slightly confused build newbie.
Is it worth going the SATA 3 route or should I stick to SATA2
I've just gone down the sata 3 and usb route, future proof
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
If you want to use fans in the top of the K58 then you also need a set of the Lian-Li grommited fan screws
http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...cat=862&page=1
And I'd sugest a couple of these fas for the top (again 140mm fans only in the top slots)
http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...cat=892&page=1
They'er great fans for the cost and near slient.
Other options would be the Yate loon http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...cat=892&page=1
r the Fractal design http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cust...cat=892&page=1
PS Welcome to HEXUS
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
Thanks for the advice. But could you explain why crossfire/sli from the outset.
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Originally Posted by
kalniel
However I wouldn't use crossfire as your means of upgrading in the future - crossfire/SLI is effective if you use it from the outset, but for upgrading you're nearly always better off just replacing the single card with a new generation single card.
My plan was to purchase first GPU for build then the next one 2-3 months later to spread the cost.
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
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Originally Posted by
Attila the Bun
Thanks for the advice. But could you explain why crossfire/sli from the outset.
My plan was to purchase first GPU for build then the next one 2-3 months later to spread the cost.
Simply that as time passes the technology improves, but with crossfire/sli you're slaved to the same level of technology that you bought in the first place.
On a short timescale that's probably okay, but then there is the usual argument that if you can do without crossfire for 3 months do you need it at all? ;)
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
Basically, I would always say: if you can get the power of two cards in one card, you're better off doing it that way.
ie don't buy a 5770 now, and then in 15 months buy another 5770. You'll be much better off selling the 5770 and buying a 6770, or whatever's out by then.
I think in this case it does make sense... to match a pair of 5770s you'd need a 5870, and if you're paying around £130 each for the 5770s, that's £260 versus £320 for a 5870, and the £60 saving isn't to be sniffed at.
If you do the upgrade in 15 months' time though, I'm almost certain that it'll be a different situation.
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Ok, the thing is I'm building this because I could be out of a job in the within next 6 months and as I'm an systems analyst / applications developer I want something that I can load all the software that I need and run the business from home. Also, I like to play games as well but I'm not a hardcore gamer, I do some low grade animations for fun and I'm planning a home LAN.
So the thinking is: good "bang for buck" but with enough future proofing to allow system upgrades that isn't going to cost the earth.
I've done some homework and I think that the spec I have above offers what I need initially but with the ability to upgrade the processor, graphics, ram and interfaces without changing the whole lot each time.
Your advice makes me think I go 2 x sata 2 on the hard drive rather than 1 x times sata 3 straight away. Maybe radeon 48 rather than 57 but as the HDMI and Display Port is standard on 57 I will probably stick with it.
I'm new to the hardware side of computing so feel free to point out any errors in my thinking and choice of components.
By the way how do you say thanks here officially or does the s/w pick it up from the text?
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
You need 25 posts to thank people: http://forums.hexus.net/welcome-hexu...r-rewards.html
What does 2 x SATA 2 mean?
Re: SATA 3 - Some advice would be appreciated
2 x sata 2 is 2 lots of HDDs with sata 2 connections rather than 1 sata 3 connected HDD
and as I haven't reached 25 posts yet...Thanks for the input