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    Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Be careful how you mount the CPUs:

    http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3661

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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Read this on a couple of forums, my mobo is one of the afflicted hoping my 750 doesn't go up in smoke as it wont draw as much current as the 800 hyperthreading chips.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Intresting, although it only seem to happen on very high overclocks when you need to feed it a lot of voltage.
    But at the same time that's not good contact.

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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    The annoying thing is, if it does only cause issues when overclocking, they will probably argue on the guarantees.....not good
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    The annoying thing is, if it does only cause issues when overclocking, they will probably argue on the guarantees.....not good
    My policy will be to check the socket mounts from now on and return it within the 30 days if it's a Foxconn socket, citing the non-spectification of the socket as "not built for purpose." This is regardless if I intend to overclock or not, because my understanding is it could do damage to a CPU even at stock speeds.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Be careful how you mount the CPUs:
    It's nothing to do with how you mount them - if the socket is poorly built then it's poorly built, nothing you can do about it.

    Good luck to those trying to determine who a socket is made by in advance! Foxconn are huge players, in the end they've got to sort this out because it's not feasible to avoid them.

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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    It's nothing to do with how you mount them - if the socket is poorly built then it's poorly built, nothing you can do about it.

    Good luck to those trying to determine who a socket is made by in advance! Foxconn are huge players, in the end they've got to sort this out because it's not feasible to avoid them.
    You can look at the backplate of the board through... as I did with the new MSI P55 we have. Fortunatly it a LONE socket.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by nightkhaos View Post
    You can look at the backplate of the board through... as I did with the new MSI P55 we have. Fortunatly it a LONE socket.
    Oh I didn't realise that. Thought they wouldn't carry a name.

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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Oh I didn't realise that. Thought they wouldn't carry a name.
    They don't really, it's etched into the socket backplate by LONE or FOXCONN. Obviously to try and give their names visablity.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Does anyone know if the gd80 is affected? Dont really want to have to take the entire rig apart to check but if no one knows then i'm in for a fun night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshalex View Post
    Does anyone know if the gd80 is affected? Dont really want to have to take the entire rig apart to check but if no one knows then i'm in for a fun night!
    They've said basicly there is a 50/50 chance. All I can say is check the backplate.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    I assume my GD-65 is Foxconn as the CPU socket protector had Foxconn on it :/
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    I assume my GD-65 is Foxconn as the CPU socket protector had Foxconn on it :/
    As I said in my post, you can try the "fit for purpose" card with your supplier, but some of them may not have it. Even through legally they should allow you to return the product, they may not actually believe that there is a problem that justifies such a return to be made.

    Failing that, I recommend dismounting your heatsink, and checking your CPU to make sure all the pins are in contact. If they aren't, you can then play the "faulty product" card with your supplier and provide photographic evidence.

    Hopefully you don't have any problems, I wish you luck.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by nightkhaos View Post
    As I said in my post, you can try the "fit for purpose" card with your supplier, but some of them may not have it. Even through legally they should allow you to return the product, they may not actually believe that there is a problem that justifies such a return to be made.

    Failing that, I recommend dismounting your heatsink, and checking your CPU to make sure all the pins are in contact. If they aren't, you can then play the "faulty product" card with your supplier and provide photographic evidence.

    Hopefully you don't have any problems, I wish you luck.
    TY, i think the force is with me tbh anyway il probably check next week, however my skills at noticing then counting pin contact evidence is most probably lacking

    I know this can occur even if your not overclocking but what is it that gets damaged - the CPU or MB ? Also i get a years warranty type thingy don't i with Scan (both items are form there) ?
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    I know this can occur even if your not overclocking but what is it that gets damaged - the CPU or MB ? Also i get a years warranty type thingy don't i with Scan (both items are form there) ?
    Technically speaking, manufactures don't cover it if you overclock it. But in practice they don't ask, and you don't tell. But as I said, this is a "fit for purpose" thing, not a warrenty thing. Legally, even if you don't have the warrenty, you have a product with a design fault that cannot achieve it's intended design purpose, therefore you should be entitled to a replacement or refund under the trading act.
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    Re: Interesting article about potential issues with socket 1156 sockets!!

    If you fully read the artical you'll spot that the back plates and not always by the same manufactor as the socket.

    If you find yourself shopping for an EVGA P55 FTW, model E657, you've got a 50/50 chance of buying one with a Tyco AMP socket design (using a LOTES backplate), as opposed to one made solely with Foxconn's, the same goes for MSI and DFI who have batches of boards in the retail channel using LOTES sockets (although we're not entirely sure on socket specifics at this point). DFI told us earlier they have dropped usage of the Foxconn sockets completely until further notice.
    While there's no mention of a Foxconn socket with LOTES backplate that doesn't mean it couldn't happen.

    Best thing to do now is check your pins or pins marks on the cpu.
    If you looked at the images the foxconn left a very distinctive 2 points on each contact, where as the LOTES and Tyco AMP left a single mark in the center.

    The best chance of getting a non-foxconn socket is to get the more expensive top end models, note best chance not garrantied.

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