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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Just thought i would pop in and point out you might want to get a new PSU aswell. Quad/Hex and a high end GPU will pull quite a bit of power and a 5yr old thing may give up.

    Might be worth giving us a full low down on the total of what you got so far.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    £90 actually - see my link a few posts up
    This does look like a good possibility but I wonder if somebody could clarify what this means in the spec:

    Memory Speed (Mhz):
    DDR3 - 1066
    DDR3 - 1333
    DDR3 - 2000(OC)

    Am I right in thinking that if I got DDR - 2000(OC) I would have to overclock the mobo and what would happen if I put in, say, DDR3 1600?

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Just thought i would pop in and point out you might want to get a new PSU aswell. Quad/Hex and a high end GPU will pull quite a bit of power and a 5yr old thing may give up.

    Might be worth giving us a full low down on the total of what you got so far.
    I have a new PSU lined up for this build.

    650w ANTEC True Power New - a bit overkill, but I've read that an underused PSU is more efficient and quiet.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Attila the Bun View Post
    This does look like a good possibility but I wonder if somebody could clarify what this means in the spec:

    Memory Speed (Mhz):
    DDR3 - 1066
    DDR3 - 1333
    DDR3 - 2000(OC)

    Am I right in thinking that if I got DDR - 2000(OC) I would have to overclock the mobo and what would happen if I put in, say, DDR3 1600?
    Yup you've got it right. 1333 is the highest speed supported by the CPU, but the motherboard BIOS is capable of telling the RAM to run out of spec effectively - this can either be done by overclocking the whole CPU:RAM package, or using dividers to up the RAM speed without effecting the CPU.

    Any RAM you put in over 1333 (inc. 1600) will run at 1333 by default, it's just capable of going faster.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Attila the Bun View Post
    I have a new PSU lined up for this build.

    650w ANTEC True Power New - a bit overkill, but I've read that an underused PSU is more efficient and quiet.
    good call, i have the 750w version and its very very quiet and easy to manage the cables. Total bargain

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Yup, good PSU that - I was using a 650W TruePower Trio (so basically the immediate predecessor to that) until I developed a need for 4 PCIe connectors Very quiet in operation, with plenty of decent length cabling.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Ok folks.

    This is the updated line up following your advice

    AMD 965 Black Edition CPU
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    ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 Mobo
    4Gb CORSAIR Dominator DDR3 1600hz RAM
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    650w Antec True Power New PSU

    I intend to get an SSD sometime in the near future when the prices drop a tad and I have convinced Mrs the Bun that it is money well spent.
    Optical drive is courtesy of my old rig and maybe upgraded to a blu-ray as and when.

    Thanks to everyone

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    another thing to check... the 5850 will fit in your case right? Its quite big!

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    another thing to check... the 5850 will fit in your case right? Its quite big!
    I have a lancool k58 which has 290mm clearance from the expansion ports to the HDD cage and thanks for the advice I hadn't considered that.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Ahhh your cool then

    Enjoy your new stuffs

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    On the GPU side of things, I would go for a 1GB GTX460 over the 5850, as Adobe have a history of providing GPU acceleration in their apps only for nVidia (although having said that no Fermi card is supported by CS5 as yet - only GTX280 and some Quadros), and for the £50 difference in price, I doubt you would notice the difference between the two in games.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltrail View Post
    On the GPU side of things, I would go for a 1GB GTX460 over the 5850, as Adobe have a history of providing GPU acceleration in their apps only for nVidia (although having said that no Fermi card is supported by CS5 as yet - only GTX280 and some Quadros), and for the £50 difference in price, I doubt you would notice the difference between the two in games.
    Not this again!

    All recent ATI and nVidia cards accelerate Adobe photoshop. You just need a card that can do openGL 2.0, shader model 3.0 and 512mg VRAM.

    The only thing that is Quadro-specific is acceleration of video encoding, and that requires a $$$ plugin.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltrail View Post
    On the GPU side of things, I would go for a 1GB GTX460 over the 5850, as Adobe have a history of providing GPU acceleration in their apps only for nVidia (although having said that no Fermi card is supported by CS5 as yet - only GTX280 and some Quadros), and for the £50 difference in price, I doubt you would notice the difference between the two in games.
    As I've been using a 5 year old computer I know I won't notice the difference in Games however as I found an XFX 5850 last night for £211.49 plus 3 games (which I'm sure the kids will like even if I don't) on ARIA I decided on that rather than the 460. Another little decider, albeit one that may be wrong, is that with an AMD CPU and Mobo I reckoned a 5850 would sit more comfortably.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Not this again!

    All recent ATI and nVidia cards accelerate Adobe photoshop. You just need a card that can do openGL 2.0, shader model 3.0 and 512mg VRAM.

    The only thing that is Quadro-specific is acceleration of video encoding, and that requires a $$$ plugin.
    Where do you find all this stuff out. I don't generally look beyond whether I have enough space or not, I guess I assume that this stuff will run fine as long as it's OS compatible and there's enough space to store it.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    That specific info is in the Adobe knowledge base documents - if you go to adobe and search the creative suite support docs for openGL you can pull back the relevant pages. But Adobe have been touting GPU acceleration for some time, and nVidia have been touting it at least as loudly, which is why I guess some people have the impression it's an nVidia thing, only it's not.

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    Re: CPU / GPU Combinations

    Quote Originally Posted by Attila the Bun View Post
    As I've been using a 5 year old computer I know I won't notice the difference in Games however as I found an XFX 5850 last night for £211.49 plus 3 games (which I'm sure the kids will like even if I don't) on ARIA I decided on that rather than the 460. Another little decider, albeit one that may be wrong, is that with an AMD CPU and Mobo I reckoned a 5850 would sit more comfortably.
    There was talk of AMD GPU on AMD chipset allowing a low power crossfire mode where the system would basically turn off the graphics card and render on the chipset integrated GPU when just at the desktop. Don't know if that ever turned into a useful feature though

    Not used a Hitachi HDD for years, most people on here seem to go for WD Black drives or Samsung.

    Looks like you ended up with a very nice spec there, do let us know how you get on once it is built.

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