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    AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Hi all,

    Now I know IDE is dated and very old now! However my dad wants to upgrade his PC cheaply. So wants to use as many old components as possible....considering its an SKT 754 Motherboard, it basically leaves the Harddrives and the two cd / dvd drives. So I need atleast two IDE ports for him to be able to keep them all.

    I don't particularly want to share a hard drive and a cd drive over the same port either.

    Onboard GPU would be a plus, its only ever going to be used for surfing the internet so nothing spectacular is needed.

    Thanks for any suggestions.
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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    I think you should use a new SATA hard drive, It will have much better performance and they are very cheap now.

    If you want to save cash use the old CD/dvd drives.

    Don't use the old PSU either.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    I would highly recomend a new hard drive, even a small cheap one is going to be faster than what your dad already has I guess and it could make a huge difference to how responsive the whole system is.

    Another alternative is to put a couple of the drives on PATA to SATA adapters, although for only £13.50 (£11.73 on TodayOnly) a new DVD-RW drive might be an idea.

    Why the two optical drives anyway? is one a DVD-ROM and the other a CD-RW? I'd bin them both and bring him up to date if that is the case.

    I really do appreciate you are trying to do this on a budget, but sometimes there is far more to be gained by not trying to save everything you possibly can from a build.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    I fully understand that. However my father doesn't.....

    So I'm trying to come up with a solution that is acceptable to him.

    If one doesn't exist then, that is also fine.

    The two drives are needed as he likes to do on the fly back ups of cd's etc.
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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    What CPU was you thinking of using?

    TBH, It would be madness to upgrade Mobo, CPU and memory. Then stay with an old hard drive which probably only has a transfer speed that is less than half of a £32 modern 500Gig drive.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Could always get an IDE controller card as well as an option - although an SATA/IDE convertor is another idea.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    By the time you've spent money on adapters/converters and whatever, you could've bought a new hard drive though.

    It's a perfectly good idea, but in pursuit of keeping the price down, I think it's going to fail. Even if you did find an AM3 motherboard with the right sockets, you'd probably spend so much more getting that particular board over any of the others that, again, you might as well have bought a hard drive.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    I've not used two optical drives for on the fly copying for ages. I've always found I've made more coasters doing it that way than with just one single drive.

    IDE controller cards are great if you can find one that isn't a finicky picky thing. I had one once and it was awful, alot of cheap motherboards only come with one PCI slot and if your going to be putting a PCI Wifi card that option would be to go for a USB Wifi adaptor.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    The OP could buy some expensive motherboard or adapters or a PCI to IDE controller card and in my opinion it is still going to be a waste of money.

    Unless the PATA drive he has is not very old it will have a very slow transfer speed and possibly fail due to old age.

    When you consider how cheap a new 500GB drive is I just don't think it is worth it.

    It would be a good idea if he told us his budget and the intended use for the machine, Then people could suggest a suitable set up.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Hi,

    Sorry for the lack of replying to all the questions...been a busy day.

    Its an old AM3 Sempron 140 CPU that I had previously used in a build of mine until I could afford the CPU I wanted. I already have an PCI to IDE adapter card that I could use, however thought that keeping it on the motherboard would be a more sensible idea.

    The budget is £100, which well isn't alot.....the PSU I replaced about 3 months ago so I intend to keep that for the new build, the Hard drive is a 500GB Hitachi Deskstar P7K500, I think....so its not that dated in comparison with the other components within the PC.

    I could use a sata cd/dvd drive, however that is using £15 that I could spend elsewhere.

    Basically I need an motherboard with an onboard GPU and some ram for £100, which will keep my old man happy. He should see an significant improvement from the AMD64 2800+ chip that he's got in there, I have a feeling it might even be an old newcastle core....

    Other than that I can just replace the SKT 754 Motherboard in there which is failing, i.e. half the ports no longer work and im not comfortable with it not killing anything else when it finally dies, main reason he needs an upgrade. But that seems imo to be a waste of money.

    Oh its going to be used for browsing the internet, replying to emails and the occasional letter. Nothing spectacular, I think an even an Intel Atom Processor would be overpowered!

    Thanks again for the responses
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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    The way I see it, the only problem with putting both the Hard Drive and the optical drive on the same IDE bus is a small loss of performance

    But the OP's Dad is not interested in spending any money to get improved performance, he wants to salvage as many components as possible, and spend as little extra money as he can.

    Hence the most cost effective solution is to get a cheap motherboard with one IDE socket, and to put both the HD and the DVD drive on the same bus. That should save £20 or so over the likey cost of an obsure board with 2 IDE sockets, and that £20 can be spent on more RAM which will make a much more noticable difference to every day performance.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Does a 2 x IDE board even exist thought? I havent seen one for years.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    To save even more money, how about a wanted advert in the right section?

    I'm sure there is someone here that might have something to tide you over.

    And you don't need an AM3 motherboard, you can get away with an AM2+ or AM3 board. AM2+ boards would use DDR2, AM3 boards would use DDR3.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    To save even more money, how about a wanted advert in the right section?

    I'm sure there is someone here that might have something to tide you over.
    That is a very good point! My testing PC has a Gigabyte board with 2 IDE ports and 2 sata ports.

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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    To save even more money, how about a wanted advert in the right section?

    I'm sure there is someone here that might have something to tide you over.

    And you don't need an AM3 motherboard, you can get away with an AM2+ or AM3 board. AM2+ boards would use DDR2, AM3 boards would use DDR3.
    I can use an AM3 processor in an AM2 motherboard then? Sorry not really tracked it that deeply since the good old SKT A, 754 and 939 days....
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    Re: AM3 Motherboard with atleast 2 IDE Ports

    Quote Originally Posted by tino View Post
    I can use an AM3 processor in an AM2 motherboard then? Sorry not really tracked it that deeply since the good old SKT A, 754 and 939 days....
    Sometime yes, sometimes no. Depends on the mobo manufacturer releasing bios updates for it. An AM2+ board *should* always support AM3 though (although you should check the manufacturer's website first to be sure).

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