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    Cheapo Build

    Been asked to spec up a potential build for someone at work. Main use is for web browsing office and some occassional gaming by his younger son. looking to spend around £400. I had specced up the following:
    i3 530
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    Corsair 4GB 1333MHz DDR3
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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64

    Comes in a little over £400.

    Can anyone recommend anything else or even something on the AMD route, not really clued up on the AMD side of things as I used to be. Anything welcome!

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    I'm not sure I'd rely on integrated graphics for "occasional gaming", although it would depend on the exact games he wanted to play. Also for the purposes you mention I'm not sure you need more than 2GB RAM, and memory isn't as cheap as it used to be

    On the AMD side I'd got for an Athlon II X2, and AMD 770 based motherboard, 2GB DDR3-1333, and a HD5670 to give those games a bit of oomph. That lot comes to just over £200, which should be less than the i3, motherboard and 4GB of RAM without noticably reducing the performance in general tasks and improving performance in games thanks to the better graphics...

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    What Jim said, with the proviso of changeing the graphics card depending on your definition of "occasional gaming"

    If you're just talking flash games and poggle then a decent IGP is enough.

    For an amd build with a decent IGP swap the 770 chipset for a 785g or 880g

    edit: if you do go mATX then you can also get a nice decent mATX case like the CM 340 http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Coole...X-Case-w-o-PSU

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    You can get the following system for around £400:

    AMD Athlon II X3 445 ~ £63

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/235421

    ASROCK M3A770DE ~ £52

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/174597

    Kingston 2GB (2x1GB) DDR3 1333MHz i5 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V ~ £35

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152979

    OR

    Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory Kit CL9 1.65V ~ £72

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/234975

    Inno3D 9800GT Esave Edition 512MB GDDR3 DVI VGA HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card ~ £66

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/169143

    Corsair 400W CX PSU ~ £30

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150985

    Samsung SpinPoint F3 500GB Hard Drive SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache ~ £33

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/146252

    Samsung SH-S223 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive ~ £13

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145450

    Casecom 6788 Black Mid Tower Case ~ £30

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172779

    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium~ £79

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173791

    The total comes to around £401 to £438 including free postage.


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    Re: Cheapo Build

    Alternative to the casecom 6788
    Thermaltake V3
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/234920

    basically looks like they copied the interals of the Silverstone Precision PS03 and put the front bezel of the xigatek Asgard on it.

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    all of these look pretty good. gaming i'm not to sure on as the guys current pc is stupidly old (a dell inspiron 2400 or something along those lines) and the games he plays seem to run ok on that.

    ok just checked with who its for and games basically is things like spelling games etc (i.e. kiddies games). so which would be better, the i3 or the amd?
    Last edited by marshalex; 02-09-2010 at 01:46 PM.

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    just spotted this under the amd mobos and the 880g chipset
    http://www.scan.co.uk/product.aspx?ProductId=37970

    any good? seems pretty reasonable with usb 3.0 for £70

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    ive been looking at a similar build for a friend of mine.

    ive gone for something similar to the amd route

    amd x3 445
    4gb (2x2gb) ddr3 1333 ocz gold low voltage
    asus m4a785td-v-evo

    coolermaster 330 with coolermaster 460w psu

    hdd 500gb wd caviar

    windows 7



    im using his old IDE cd drive, and also one of his old seagate barracude 180gb hdds - is this a bad idea? will it limit any speeds at all?


    Also ive been an idiot, i went and bought the OCZ gold memory and ive checked on the asus qualified vendors list - the memory is not on there. Is it likely not to work? or not work to ddr 1333?

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    oh yeah sorry, total price for all those parts was £300 + £90 for windows. £390 not bad for a 4gb ddr3 rig with 3 cores@ 3.1 ghz!! might even be able to unlock with my mobo, not sure yet

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    no the memory should be fine, motherboard manufactures never test every type of memory.
    The main worry is some of the more extreme types with very high speeds and/or very low timeings
    Standard JEDEC settings are 1333mhz @ cas9 @ 1.5v, as long as you don't overclock almost any make/brand of memory is fine.

    The main issues that used to occure with incompatibility was back when DDR2 double sided and high density chips where new.
    I haven't seen memory compatability issues in a long time. (execpt on some of the very high end stuff)

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    Alternative to the casecom 6788
    Thermaltake V3
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/234920

    basically looks like they copied the interals of the Silverstone Precision PS03 and put the front bezel of the xigatek Asgard on it.
    thats a pretty sweet case, in fact i prefer that to the coolermasters at that price bracket. whats the psu like that comes with it? dabs have it for £60 with the thermaltake 450w psu. decisions decisions!
    still unsure on what mobo to get as the 880g i listed above or one thats been out a bit longer.

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    think this is pretty much what i've decided on. thoughts?

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    hey marshal im really confused about your order - ive looked for exacylt he same ram... i cannnot find. or the stealthstream PSU - is that cos theyre out of stock? (im new to Scan, come here as im after the free postage, but seems they do actually have some better deals than ebuyr...

    also is that copy of windows you have a FULL edition not an upgrade one?

    Why is it i can never find these good offers on scan? lol

    thanks for the ram advice dude - looks like our guy here is gettin the same stuff so ill post how ive got on with it.

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    There's no RAM in his order from SCAN.

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    There's no RAM in his order from SCAN.
    oh well wheres it from then? hes photoshopped two images together?

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    Re: Cheapo Build

    Looks good for now. Did you get any idea of what kind of games his son wants to play? I assume your thought is that he could try them on the GPU and you can always add a discrete GPU later?

    If so and you're looking at a motherboard with SB710 anyway, I'd seriously consider seeing if you can get a 785G / 790GX motherboard with sideport RAM for the same price, e.g. this ASRock from ebuyer - the sideport will really help speed up the integrate graphics (and the 790GX IGP is clocked faster, too!)

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