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    Scan super saver advice please!

    Hi guys - need your advice.

    This system is on scan today only for £197ish:

    AMD Athlon X2 7850 Combo

    * Xclio 6010 Black (Silver Alumin Front) Midi Tower Case w/o PSU Hi End
    * 500W Ezcool PS-10 Silent, 80mm Fan, 24+4pin, ATX12 v2.03
    * AMD Athlon X2 7850 Black Edition AM2+, Kuma Core, Dual Core, 2.8GHz, 3MB Total Cache 95W, OEM
    * Xigmatek HDT-S963 3x Heat-pipe Direct Touch 775/K8/AM2/AM2+/939/740 92mm PWM Fan CPU cooler
    * Gigabyte GA-M68M-S2P, NF 7025, AM2/AM2+, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 1066/800, SATA 3Gb/s RAID, mATX, VGA
    * 2 x 2GB Hynix, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 6, Retail
    * 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS Barracuda 7200.12, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 16MB Cache, 9.5 ms, NCQ
    * Sony AD-7260S-0B 24x DVD±R, 12xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 ,12xRAM SATA, Black, OEM

    In your expert opinions, would there be any downsides to having this as just an office/email/internet machine? My grandfather desperately needs a new computer but wants to spend as little as possible - and I haven't been looking at these things properly for a good while now.

    Simply asked - is it good value for money? And is there anything I'm missing about it?

    Thanks! Tim

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    The power supply is horrendous, I wouldn't take it for free.

    Apart from that, nothing particularly wrong with it. Whether you could do better picking the components yourself and fine-tuning to your requirements... that's another question altogether.

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    not to sure about the ram either, I have heard of hynix but I have no idea whether they are good or not. I reckon if you have the time you are better off speccing your own pc.

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by c.ruel View Post
    not to sure about the ram either, I have heard of hynix but I have no idea whether they are good or not. I reckon if you have the time you are better off speccing your own pc.
    They're the 2nd biggest maker of RAM in the world, to that end I don't see why you'd trust a rebrander any more.

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Thanks for the advice, good to know. Do you think it is possible to build a reliable, office capable computer (without an OS) for around £225ish?

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Something along these lines?
    And a PSU to taste, nothing that is 800W and £20 though, ask here first, I can't see the one I would go for on scan.

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Good build by nibbler ^^

    A 300W PSU would be fine for that, by the way. In fact it's overkill, but it's a sensible wattage to look for.

    Little bit more expensive, but I quite like the Coolermaster cases - RC-341 if you can find it, or else the RC-342 once it hits. For a little build, they're good quality cases with good cooling potential if you need it later on.

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    As a basic internet/office machine that's fine, I'd upgrade the psu not more powerfull but better quality.

    The Corsair CX430w, not a great psu but enough for this and reasonable quality.http://www.scan.co.uk/products/430w-...-rail-atx-ps-2
    Or Silverstone strider 400w http://www.scan.co.uk/products/400w-...-12v-120mm-fan

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Thanks for your help chaps. That build by nibbler looks good and is probably perfect for what I'll be going for.

    I still use the setup shown under my name and it works pretty well for me....I can only think this build will be better!

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by timtim86 View Post
    ....I can only think this build will be better!
    Better for what? The CPU's faster, but apart from that it wouldn't really be an upgrade. So unless you're CPU limited in what you currently do, the new build won't really be "better"...

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    The power supply is horrendous, I wouldn't take it for free.

    Apart from that, nothing particularly wrong with it. Whether you could do better picking the components yourself and fine-tuning to your requirements... that's another question altogether.
    Agreed. Wouldn't touch ezfail with a poo stick.

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    For future reference snootyjim does that make hynix good? I mean McDonalds makes lots of hamburgers ... doesn't make them any good

    Jokes aside would you buy hynix ram rather than crucial ram or whatever? I have seen it about and wondered. I think hynix ram usually has a two year warranty and on scan it says nothing about a warranty as far as I can tell but i think you get a 2 year warranty on all stuff you buy from scan anyway right?

    Still considering alot of manufacturers offer lifetime warranties (eg crucial) and lots offer 10 years I have always been put off.

    But if you can prove me wrong I would be grateful as it is very cheap!

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    RAM != Hamburgers

    But actually, it's not a bad analogy. The point is that if all you want is a basic hamburger that will give you enough calories to get through to tea-time, MacDonald's isn't a bad choice: you know exactly what you're getting, it's going to have zero frills but it's going to do what it says on the tin. So if all you want is basic RAM that performs to JEDEC spec, there's nothing wrong with going for the company that churns out RAM by the bucketload. If you want high performance RAM, then go to GBK... erm, I mean, Crucial, who'll charge you more but give you the extra bells and whistles to go with it

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by c.ruel View Post
    For future reference snootyjim does that make hynix good? I mean McDonalds makes lots of hamburgers ... doesn't make them any good

    Jokes aside would you buy hynix ram rather than crucial ram or whatever? I have seen it about and wondered. I think hynix ram usually has a two year warranty and on scan it says nothing about a warranty as far as I can tell but i think you get a 2 year warranty on all stuff you buy from scan anyway right?

    Still considering alot of manufacturers offer lifetime warranties (eg crucial) and lots offer 10 years I have always been put off.

    But if you can prove me wrong I would be grateful as it is very cheap!
    Everything you buy from Scan will have at least a 6 month "guaranteed warranty" so to speak, under the sale of goods act. Anything additional to that will be a manufacturer warranty as specified on the page itself.

    What I was getting at is that they clearly make worthwhile products - if they're actually making the chips themselves, then I don't see why you would be concerned about the quality of the product if you're fine with Corsair, who use a whole variety of chip manufacturers (and certainly don't make any of their own).

    If I was actually deciding whether to buy them, then yeah the warranty would be something I'd want to look into, but then it's not always as simple as "10 years" and so on. For instance, I had some damaged OCZ DDR2 a while back, but if I wanted to make a warranty claim, I would've had to post the sticks to Holland, by which time it would've been so expensive that it made more sense to chuck them in the bin.

    So I'm not recommending them persay, just pointing out that in some ways it would be daft to rank them below Corsair or someone in terms of quality

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    For instance, I had some damaged OCZ DDR2 a while back, but if I wanted to make a warranty claim, I would've had to post the sticks to Holland, by which time it would've been so expensive that it made more sense to chuck them in the bin.
    Considering I sent a package that weighed 1kg to Turkey for £5, I don't think a couple of sticks of RAM in a jiffy bag would cost more than the ram istelf

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    Re: Scan super saver advice please!

    Thanks both jims for your replies. I wasn't saying hynix were bad I was just saying I was pretty ignorant to whether they were good or not and was hoping that someone more knowledgable than myself could tell me and the OP.

    Crucial ram seems to be pretty cheap so I have always bought that and had no problem. I had guessed that corsair didn't make their own ram since asestek or whatever they are called make the h50 and sea sonic make their psus (not sure if it is all of them).

    As for the warranty information thanks for that as well. In terms of warranty my thinking is usually that if they put alonger than industry standard warranty on it they are pretty confident it isn't going to break therefore I will buy it. Never considered the actually process of RMAing until you spoke about it with that OCZ ram.

    I am pretty unadventurous when it comes to ram, psus and hard drives, I stick to the big brands ... irronically it is with expensive components like motherboards and graphics card where I cut corners!

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