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    first build - is this spec ok?

    right, i want to to build my first pc,

    uses: office programs, web surfing, cd ripping, audacity recording - no big gamer!

    I want to keep this quite cheap with the intention to run it for a while and then either upgrade slowly or use as a file server for my music and films.

    so this is what i’m thinking so far - its all from ebuyer:
    CASE Casecom 6788 £28.99
    FANS xilence Red Wing 120mm Quiet Fan £4.99 x2
    RAM EXTRA VALUE 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz Memory Kit 1.5V CL9 £38.29
    HDD Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII £29.99
    PSU antec 380w earthwatts green psu £35.02 (+ kettle lead £1.79)
    DVD Samsung SH-S223 £11.99
    GC PALIT GT240 512MB GDDR3 DVI VGA HDMI Out PCI-E £49.05 (novatech sell the 1gb for £54.99 worth the extra?)
    MOBO Asus M4A88T-M 880G Socket AM3 £59.99
    CPU AMD Athlon II X2 260 3.2 GHz Socket AM3 2MB £49.93
    Monitor LG E2250V 22" LED Monitor £146.50 (includes DVI cable)
    CAT5e cable 10m £2.99
    Keyboard Logitech Keyboard K200 £8.41 (already have a spare mouse)

    total: £472.91

    the pc will run ubuntu 10.10 - hence why a nvidia graphics card is included. (wireless card not required). Keen to use energy saving products - hence LED monitor and antec 80% PSU.

    questions:
    is extra value ram ok?
    should i get an aftermarket cooler for the cpu - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 £15?
    will 2 fans be sufficient - i have read the casecom provided fan is a bit rubbish!
    will the antec 380w be enough? may wish to add sound card later -asus xonar and extra HDD?
    is the palit GT240 good enough?
    The motherboard has been the toughest decision - is the asus board any good?
    will the samsung s223 dvd rw be ok? will install os via usb - just needed for cd ripping duties
    should i ditch the athlon cpu and buy a sepron (and cooler) and hope it unlocks?

    should i change anything - happy to spend an extra tenner here and there but don’t want to spend an extra £200!


    thanks in advance!
    Last edited by mrcoal; 17-11-2010 at 11:07 PM.

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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    Motherboard should be fine, 880G is a decent chipset.

    RAM you don't really specify what brand it is. Personally just me I wouldn't go for cheap ram especially as RAM prices are low anyway at the moment.

    CPU, I really think you should stretch to an athlon x3 II 455 if you're going the AMD route. What will you mostly be using the computer for?

    Graphics card ... if you are going for something that cheap try to get a GTS 250 or 4870 or something along similar lines ... as for the frame buffer size if you game at 1920x1080 or over then use 1gb is worth it.

    Stock cooler on the cpu will be fine. The default AMD one is pretty quiet.

    psu if you are going to get a 4870 or something then you probably need 400-450 but you should be able to get away with 380.

    HDD should be fine and so should the optical drive. Again with the case it's hard to know but for if you spend £10 you could probably get one of the silverstone precision ones. Only you can tell really if that is worth it.

    EDIT: have a look at scan today only http://www.scan.co.uk/TodayOnly/Index.aspx

    Your motherboard is on their plus the graphics card and alot of decent psus. If you get over 20 posts on this forum you qualify for free shipping on it.

    p.s the GTS 250 and Hd 4800s seem to be expensive on scan ... if gaming is important to you I really would try to stretch to HD 5770 or a GTX 460 768mb. If those are out of your budget shop around and see if you can find a decent deal on any of the previous generations of grpahics cards.

    although doing a little such on froogle I just found a GTS 250 for £7 ... that must be a mistake

    http://www.kikatek.com/product_info....source=froogle
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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    is extra value ram ok? - Fine if you're not ocing. You can shop around and try to pick some slightly better stuff for more but it looks like a good deal to me.

    should i get an aftermarket cooler for the cpu - Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 £15? If you're not ocing stick ooler should be okay. There are a few EOL coolers available
    san have been flogging off coolermaster hypers and the xigmatek range recently. You an get free postage on orders over £20 with 20 posts on hexus and there are usually deals to be had on teh today only.

    will 2 fans be sufficient - i have read the casecom provided fan is a bit rubbish!-you'll probably only need one. you're not going to generat that muh heat and can always get some at a later date. Chilled pc have yate loons with RM postage so they are not too expensive if you need more fans.

    will the antec 380w be enough? may wish to add sound card later -asus xonar and extra HDD? - should be fine. it will limit your ability to use a monster GPU though.

    is the palit GT240 good enough? Its not a great ard imo. Its a shame they don't do NV onboard chipsets with USB3 and SATA3; would be a good comprise. As you're not doing alot wi thit you ould probably get a heaper card. I suppose if you are using software that an utilise your GPU a better card may be worthwhile.

    The motherboard has been the toughest decision - is the asus board any good? imo they're much of a sameness unless you want speific features.
    should i ditch the athlon cpu and buy a sepron (and cooler) and hope it unlocks? -If it does not unlock you're stuck with one core. as above you can opt for the tri and try to unlock that for about £10 more.

    In terms of monitor; can you get a 24" for 150? the BenQ G2420HDBL comes in at that price point but it should be down to your preference.

    Apologies for the ramblings and Mr R has overed alot of things.

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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    I would look at the following components:

    AMD Athlon II X3 445 ~ £56

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/235421

    Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory Kit CL9 1.65V ~ £51

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/239260

    MSI 870-C45 ~ £50

    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...0-C45.html#top

    Has the 770 chipset with the SB710 southbridge. Many of the 880G motherboards have the SB710 southbridge and lack SATA 3.0 too.

    Corsair CX 400W ~ £32

    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...0CXUK.html#top

    Asus GeForce G210 512MB ~ £31

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176604

    Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3 1TB ~ £41

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/173804

    LiteOn IHAS124-19 24x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive ~ £12

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176026

    NZXT BETA EVO Black Mid Tower Case ~ £36

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/191831

    2X120MM fans ~ £10

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138586

    The total comes to around £290. Ebuyer and Novatech do free postage. You can also get cashback on Novatech purchases from TopCashBack and Quidco.

    If you want SATA 3.0 and USB 3.0 I would look at one of the following motherboards instead:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/218937

    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...-G0EAY0WZ.html
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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    Your specs are fine for a basic office programs, web surfing, cd ripping, audacity recording (a bit more specifics on that last one?)
    Although the GPU is pointless, you'd be fine with onboard graphics and the gt240 is pants

    For basic gaming I'd say a 5750 is your best bet http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/p...h/57501gb.html £80
    or a 9800gt for £66 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/205449
    however 2nd hand would be worth it

    CAT's specs are better, memory is a bit OTT if you're not overclocking then 1333mhz is all you need
    heck 1066mhz would be ok
    The extra value RAM should be fine if you don't overclock, although I'm a little unsure of ebuyer's extra value stuff, Other "value" ram I bought has been very good in the past, often you get the same chips on them as "branded" ram

    Micron, Samsung, Elpida, Qimonda, Hynix, Are the big 5 that make the vast majority of ALL ddr3 memory chips.
    PorMos, Powerchip, Nanya, Aeneon, are the other companies still in business making ram chips

    Most of the "memory brands" we see in retail are ether assembled (chips from them manufactures and stuck onto the pcb's by the brand company) or just complete sticks from the chip manufactures which have stickers or heat sinks put on them.
    This means that the cheap "good brand" memory can often be the exact same sticks as the non-branded Extra value stuff.
    The difference is in support and warranty, however atm many of the "good brands" are scaling back warranties on their cheap stuff.

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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    Memory is cheapest available on ebuyer anyway, unless you take the unbranded heatsinkless option @ £38

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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    Cat's spec looks very good ... don't see why he changed the motherboard but I won't argue! With the money you have saved you could get a much better gfx card like a GTX 460 768mb if it has to be nvidia, I think aria might also have a deal on a GTX 260 but tbh it's not a great one I don't think so might as well for the 460. But Graphics simply might not be important to you, I don't know. If not then just stick with a very basic gfx card and pocket the money.

    oops just noticed you edited your post to say you are not a big game ... sorry . In that case you could pocket the money or put it towards an athlon II x4 or towards the monitor. Many good monitors around £200.

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    Re: first build - is this spec ok?

    thank you all very much for the helpful and informative replies - I will now have a look through and amend my order. Will post pictures of the final build!

    cheers

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