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    Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    I was about to buy one of those cheap Xonar sound cards, which I would then have put in a Sandy Bridge system which I plan to buy in spring. But my early investigations show that some (most?) of the 1155 motherboards won't support PCI cards.

    There aren't many PCI express sound available - especially not cheap ones. Is this likely to stay this way, or will some canny motherbaord makers put PCI slots in anyway??

    There is also the option of some kind of bridging system to PCIe I believe, but will this cause latency or other performance issues?

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    I am sure only the very top end board with lots of PCI-e slot do not have PCI slots

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Yes, a bit more investigation confirms that the P67 and H67 chipsets will not natively support PCI. But mobo manufacturers will be including them via a PCI express bridging chip.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Quote Originally Posted by banja View Post
    There is also the option of some kind of bridging system to PCIe I believe, but will this cause latency or other performance issues?
    High end Xonar cards that are PCI-e actually use bridging chips as they're natively PCI chips anyway, so they don't seem to think there's a latency issue.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Quote Originally Posted by banja View Post
    Yes, a bit more investigation confirms that the P67 and H67 chipsets will not natively support PCI. But mobo manufacturers will be including them via a PCI express bridging chip.
    Wow, PCI about to become a "legacy" item.....I guess it is about time though!
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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Manufacturers are even wanting to ditch VGA from a lot of systems as the connector is too bulky. At least with HDMI you can go for a mini connector.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    What about DVI? Surely that must be bulkier that VGA...

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    I must admit, the length of time the VGA connection has been common-place is quite staggering. I think the only connector to out-last it is probably the 3-pin power input

    Although a lot of newer gfx cards do not have them, although they still seem to ship with DVI>VGA adapters, annoyingly as most still do not ship with DVI>HDMI adapters which would probably benefit more people these days.
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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    so how am i suppose to connect my tv card and sound card that are both pci devices when most of these boards dont have pci connections?

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Most of them do, it's only a few high end boards that have no PCI legacy slots.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    You can buy pci-express to pci adapter cards for when they finally become legacy. I've never used one so no idea how well they work.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/184675

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Quote Originally Posted by spoon_ View Post
    What about DVI? Surely that must be bulkier that VGA...
    But it is also electrically compatible with HDMI, so all you need is a passive cable adapter, or a cable with HDMI on one end and DVI on the other.

    So replacing a bulk DVI connector with even a mini HDMI is no real issue, phasing out VGA is a different matter altogether.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Quote Originally Posted by sadbuttrue View Post
    You can buy pci-express to pci adapter cards for when they finally become legacy. I've never used one so no idea how well they work.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/184675
    Will only work for low profile PCI cards with a low profile bracket though.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    so all in all where screwed.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    so all in all where screwed.
    Nope. Just buy a motherboard that uses a bridging chip, like they've been doing for the last generation as well.

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    Re: Sandy Bridge lacking PCI slots

    bridging chip? no idea what that is.

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