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    Which is better??????????

    Hi all.
    One question. Which is better?
    Phenom II X2 555 @ 3.2 dual or Althon X2 5000 (Unlock to FX5000) @ 2.2quad.

    I got both but can only keep one, so help me decide.

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    Question requires context. Better for what? The x4 will be better for multithreaded software, the X2 for lightly threaded software. So what are your main uses?

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    The pc is use for surfing and gaming.

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    Unlock the Phenom II X2 to a X4 instead?
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    Unlock the Phenom II X2 to a X4 instead?
    No joy on my ASUS M4A78LT-M mobo, wouldn't unlock.
    Thinking of trying it on the Asrock board.

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    What games? Most games still only really benefit from 3 cores at the most, so for those purposes I suspect the faster X2 would be better. Of course, the best would be to overclock the unlocked X4 - I know people on here have got them up to ~ 3GHz with a decent air cooler...

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    Games like COD5 and Empire Total War.
    Would it make a different with the memory aswell. I mean
    Dual core use DDR3 and FX5000 only DDR2

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    The memory won't make a huge difference - very few programs are memory bandwidth constricted. Besides, AMD processors run more efficiently with lower speed RAM using very tight latencies (AFAIK, that is). What might make a difference to you, though, is that DDR3 RAM has become very cheap recently, to the extent that a 4GB kit can be picked up for < £40...

    I believe the Total War series utterly hammer the CPU - I doubt either of those would be comfortable running it. Overclock the unlocked 5000+ - it's the only way to be sure

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    The memory won't make a huge difference - very few programs are memory bandwidth constricted. Besides, AMD processors run more efficiently with lower speed RAM using very tight latencies (AFAIK, that is). What might make a difference to you, though, is that DDR3 RAM has become very cheap recently, to the extent that a 4GB kit can be picked up for < £40...

    I believe the Total War series utterly hammer the CPU - I doubt either of those would be comfortable running it. Overclock the unlocked 5000+ - it's the only way to be sure
    Right, let see if I can push the FX5000 a bit and see what I get.

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    that depends on what kinda army settings you use on total war - you can scale down unit sizes and it runs just fine not only that but empire is an awful piece of coding and really demands more than it should.
    cod isn't very demanding so that's not something to worry about

    shame you can't unlock - I just unlocked my athlon II x3 to phenom quad - was qutie chuffed

    If you also want a ram upgrade Jim is right in pointing out the pricing though !

    Overall I'd go for Phenom II personally ... or take it, sell it and get athlon tri core

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    Re: Which is better??????????

    Not try to oc quad yet but manage to push X2 to 4.1gigs so very happy with that. DDR3 are cheaper now got 2x2gigs XMS from scan for £35.

    Will try FX5000 and see what I get and decide then

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