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    PC crashes when I kick it

    This thread isn't quite as stupid as it sounds

    Basically, if I knock my PC, it has a habit of either freezing or just going to a black screen - perhaps with a chair wheel or my foot. Anybody else noticed this, or is it further evidence of my PC-building ineptitude?

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Chances are it is something loose that gets knocked out of place briefly as you hit the case, or maybe something shorting out against the case as it is moved.
    I don't mean to sound cold, or cruel, or vicious, but I am so that's the way it comes out.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Yeah, I was suspecting the latter - hence blaming my uselessness

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Could also be your hard drive if it's the spinning type..

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Quote Originally Posted by Blastuk View Post
    Could also be your hard drive if it's the spinning type..
    This was my initial thought.
    Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
    CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
    TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Nope, SSD. Interesting thought though, hadn't thought of that. I run Steam off a spinning disk, but I wouldn't have thought a jump on that drive would kill the OS.

    I think it's getting worse to be honest, happened to me twice tonight. Never used to at all.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Wouldn't it have to be a reasonable knock to disrupt the HDD? Every computer I've owned/used has been clunked by me either inadvertently or even deliberately (in the case of my old MESH machine which needed or decent thump every half hour to keep the fan from rattling too noisily).

    My guess would be something electrical, though depending how your HDD is mounted it might be as simple as this. Is the motherboard earthed properly?

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    oops -we were obviously typing at the same time. Def not the drive then. how old/new is the build?

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    is the machine you're asking about desktop 2 in your sig then?

    Desktop 2 (Self-built): 7 Home, CM RC-341, OCZ 400W XStream, GA-MA785GM-US2H, Phenom X4 9600 BE, 4GB RAM, 2TB HD204UI, 32GB OCZ Onyx SSD, HP w19

    another poster is having problems with a similar spec'd machine with same PSU - it's not the PSU getting old is it?

    Also noticed you're running Creative T40 speakers - aren't they fantastic? One of the best buys I've made in recent years I think.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    How big a bump? hard drive would of been my first guess esp if you've got one of those disk performance defragers running (a bit of software that runs in the background and automatically defrags the hard drives when it's not being directly accessed) as that will mean it's constantly accessed and more susceptible to knocks.
    Or are you using a 2.5" HDD? might be triggering a fall sensor
    However with an SSD as the main OS drive that shouldn't be an issue.

    Does sound more like a lose wire ether inside or outside, if it was case earthing it would happen every time you touch it regardless to how lightly/heavily.

    Could also be a break in the sata cable to the ssd it can happen if you bend it too much, try swapping out the sata cable if you've got a spare.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    As mentioned above I have a similar/opposite problem. Mine randomly cuts out and then when I knock it it comes back on. although it seems to cut out more and more. My PSU is the same as yours and my system is a similar spec.

    My thread is here: http://forums.hexus.net/help-technic...ml#post2053920

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    if it was case earthing it would happen every time you touch it regardless to how lightly/heavily.
    I meant the motherboard into the case, rather than the case as a whole.

    if mobo mounted eg with washers between screws + metal mounts then the mobo isn't earthed to the chassis unless components connecting into it provide an alternative route for this to happen - which probably won't be great for the MOBO. I imagine such a system would eventually blow something somewhere eventually.

    Your suggestions of loose wires sound more likely, but thought I'd start with this just to eliminate it.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    oops -we were obviously typing at the same time. Def not the drive then. how old/new is the build?
    Years. Although I've re-assembled it a few times since then.

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    is the machine you're asking about desktop 2 in your sig then?

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    another poster is having problems with a similar spec'd machine with same PSU - it's not the PSU getting old is it?

    Also noticed you're running Creative T40 speakers - aren't they fantastic? One of the best buys I've made in recent years I think.
    No, it's my main rig - just haven't updated the sig to match the setup yet, SSD was a recent addition.

    And yes, very impressed with the T40s. Cost me £65, which is quite a bit but it's not really a lot more than the £20 it would cost for a really basic set of Logitech X140s. Gets good bass without the hassle of a subwoofer, which was what I was always aiming for.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    How big a bump? hard drive would of been my first guess esp if you've got one of those disk performance defragers running (a bit of software that runs in the background and automatically defrags the hard drives when it's not being directly accessed) as that will mean it's constantly accessed and more susceptible to knocks.
    Or are you using a 2.5" HDD? might be triggering a fall sensor
    However with an SSD as the main OS drive that shouldn't be an issue.

    Does sound more like a lose wire ether inside or outside, if it was case earthing it would happen every time you touch it regardless to how lightly/heavily.

    Could also be a break in the sata cable to the ssd it can happen if you bend it too much, try swapping out the sata cable if you've got a spare.
    SSD for OS, Samsung F1 3.5" for Steam.

    Well, the strength needed seems to be decreasing. I had some dodgy fans a while back, and being a lazy sod, a firm palm on the top would stop them from vibrating. That would stop the PC occasionally - today I've nudged it with the wheel of my chair and it's gone.

    It's certainly not that sensitive though - I can happily wobble it around, even get the side off with everything still working, fiddle around with fan speeds and wire positions, put the side back on, and all the time it will carry on working. Seems to be the short, sharp impacts that it can't handle.

    Some interesting ideas there, will definitely take a look at a few solutions when I get some spare time.

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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    To be honest if I was you id take it all apart and put it back together again. That will cover the chance of any shorts or loose cables. If your barely touching it and its crashing thats the only thing I can think off.
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    Re: PC crashes when I kick it

    My guess if it's a SSD OS is that there's a slightly loose SATA cable under somewhere.

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