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    Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    Hi guys,

    I'm looking for a suitable new case & PSU unit for a new mid-to-high end build. Main uses are going to be After Effects rendering, video editing & encoding and not gaming (maybe check out Battlefield 3) but no plans to SLI/XFire.

    Currently, I'm holding out on 2nd gen i5/i7s in order to see what bulldozer brings to the table. But for now, I want to get my case & PSU out of the way, along with other components that are not reliant upon the platform (HDDs etc).

    Here's what I'm planning to include and need to sufficiently power & cool:
    6 x 1TB Samsung F3 (2 x RAID 0 Arrays + 1 Boot + Extra Content)
    2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM (1600Mhz?) + Add another 8GB Later
    1 x Nvidia GTS 450
    1 x Bluray Re-writer
    4 x Case fans at least


    Here's a case I looked at:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/xclio...-black-w-o-psu
    £47.99 on Today Only offer

    And PSU:
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-...-12v-120mm-fan
    £46.79 Today Only

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-...12v-version-22
    £49.19 Today Only

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/800w-...ail-atx12v-v22
    £37.80 Today Only

    Or case + psu combos here:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/220861
    £74.99 (£25 off sale) + free shipping

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/220862
    £99.99 + free shipping

    The combos seems a good bargain, but not to my taste (and maybe spec?). I really like the first Xclio Blackhawk case, but I'm I was hoping to spend a maximum of £100 - 110 for case & modular psu but there's no super saver saver option on scan, so post is another £17 on top. Plus that Basiq modular psu looks like maybe it cant handle an i5/i7 system, so it probably cant handle bulldozer also.

    Need some help/advice guys, would be dearly appreciated, preferably before these today only offers run out (or you can maybe point me to alternatives?). And sorry for the long post, tried to give as much info as I could. Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    Just wondering why the 2x RAID 0 arrays? Don't get me wrong - I can think of a few uses where they would be useful, but I'm just interested in your intentions for them. If you don't need *masses* of storage, an SSD and 1x RAID 0 array might be viable?

    Also, I'm not sure whether any of this production work is mission critical - but I don't see any backup solution (or would you use one of the 1TB drives for this)?
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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    A bit more expensive than the previous ones is the nzxt tempest evo as it will hold and cool 8 hard drives easily. Mine only has 4 in now .

    http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/cra...es/tempest_evo

    I would have thought you would have been looking for full tower cases to house all your hard drives.

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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by FatalSaviour View Post
    Just wondering why the 2x RAID 0 arrays? Don't get me wrong - I can think of a few uses where they would be useful, but I'm just interested in your intentions for them. If you don't need *masses* of storage, an SSD and 1x RAID 0 array might be viable?

    Also, I'm not sure whether any of this production work is mission critical - but I don't see any backup solution (or would you use one of the 1TB drives for this)?
    Sorry for my limited explanations, but I'll try. The reason I want to use 2 RAID arrays is because, during editing I have 1 array with source media (high bit rate/uncompressed video footage) and 1 array for the renders (of said footage after applying effects). Having your source and renders separate is common practice amongst video editors and in most cases is a necessary step. Having them RAID(ed) removes some bottlenecks especially for uncompressed HD, which otherwise would cause playback to stutter on single drives. So that's 4 drives done, and I already own and use these drives so I'm not exactly buying new drives to RAID. Hope that makes sense!

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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by Total Ignorance View Post
    Hi guys,
    psu but there's no super saver saver option on scan, so post is another £17 on top.
    http://forums.hexus.net/scan-care-he...0-07-08-a.html

    And as for SuperSavers

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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    I would change the PSU TBH.

    If the budget is tight I would get the following one:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-...l-power-supply


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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by FatalSaviour View Post
    Just wondering why the 2x RAID 0 arrays? Don't get me wrong - I can think of a few uses where they would be useful, but I'm just interested in your intentions for them. If you don't need *masses* of storage, an SSD and 1x RAID 0 array might be viable?
    Oh and forgot to mention that, for Backup, yes you are right, one of the other drives is for current project backups and necessary exports, but generally speaking, my backups are on external devices as it is now (I also already have these already), so backup is not really a problem for me. Also I can afford to lose the data on the render array or even the source array as these are actually taken from the original source camera formats which are backed up.

    However, you have raised an interesting point with the SSD Drive; which I think will definitely help for Boot/OS/Application start-up. The only issue I see is the cost per GB, and I plan on dual booting Windows, one partition only for production work/apps and nothing more, and will be kept offline, whereas another partition for general use and go online, and I don't want those to mix. The only way I see that I can achieve this on SSDs is, with at least a 128GB+ drive, and they are not as cheap as traditional drives although they do seem to have gone down in price considerably since I last checked, so will definitely give SSDs a second thought.

    Thanks for your input FatalSaviour, helped me remember what I actually had planned but got confused over, much appreciated.

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    My bad bad about SuperSavers, I did see those. But seriously, FREE POST?? Is this for life, as in, once in and never out?

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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    There is also the Scan Shop Offers webpage:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/shopoffers/index.aspx

    If you buying a dedicated graphics card for gaming I would look at one which is faster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Ignorance View Post
    My bad bad about SuperSavers, I did see those. But seriously, FREE POST?? Is this for life, as in, once in and never out?
    Free postage is for life, well as long as they keep doing the deal. Its been running q a few years now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I would change the PSU TBH.

    If the budget is tight I would get the following one:

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-...l-power-supply
    Looks good, but I'm thinking if 550w is enough for all the components mentioned. Will it leave any headroom for something else I may add in future (nothing too taxing gfx, but maybe a couple more drives)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfour View Post
    A bit more expensive than the previous ones is the nzxt tempest evo as it will hold and cool 8 hard drives easily. Mine only has 4 in now .

    http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/cra...es/tempest_evo

    I would have thought you would have been looking for full tower cases to house all your hard drives.
    Does the water cooling make a big difference ?

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    Re: Seeking Advice on Mid-Range Case & PSU (Near Future Bulldozer/Sandy Bridge Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by melon View Post
    Does the water cooling make a big difference ?
    For high end SLI yes, for all other purposes it will make a large difference to your wallet without much benefit. If your worried about keeping your HD cool make sure you choose a case that has fans which blow directly over them.

    That NZXT case looks fine for this purpose, dual front intakes with decent fans will be plenty cooling for the system.

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