Apple experimenting with the A5 in the MacBook Air??

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Perhaps it could mean a new lower end range range below the current laptops:

http://www.reghardware.com/2011/05/2...arm_air_spied/

http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...cessors-959866

[this_is_gav]

Perhaps it could mean a new lower end range range below the current laptops:

Don't be stupid! They'll just tout the "ground breaking" battery life instead!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Don't be stupid! They'll just tout the "ground breaking" battery life instead!

Good point!!

Of course it will be revolutionary like you said even though companies like Asus have produced devices like the Eee Transformer(has to be instantly rubbish since it runs Android).

[BobF64]

Don't be stupid! They'll just tout the "ground breaking" battery life instead!

Dont forget that it will "change everything" and be "better than ever" and "thinnest ever".

*shrug* doesnt surprise me, Apple went from PPC to x86, why not to ARM as well, after all, Apple arent exactly, IMHO, good at giving customers what they want, but rather telling them what they should have.

[[AW] Whale]

Apple? Lower end?

They only do top end, none of this cheap and nasty rubbish.

In fairness, everything Apple have done has been ground breaking in recent years. Everyone laughed at them for calling the iPad 1 'magical', 9 months and 15 million sales later, it looks like they were right, again.

[watercooled]

Apple? Lower end?

They only do top end, none of this cheap and nasty rubbish.

In fairness, everything Apple have done has been ground breaking in recent years. Everyone laughed at them for calling the iPad 1 'magical', 9 months and 15 million sales later, it looks like they were right, again.

Seriously? I assume that's sarcasm? Either that or extreme, ignorant fanboyism?

A lot of what Apple does, whether it's their CE products or computers, use lower end parts at an inflated price, for example they use mobile parts in the iMacs. ARM is absolutely not, in any way whatsoever, 'cheap and nasty' - it is one of, if not THE best low-power RISC architecture. And FYI, this A5 is what's used in the iPad 2. There is nothing whatsoever they have done that's been ground-breaking from a technical standpoint, a marketing standpoint maybe, but tablets have been around for years - capacitive, multi-touch touch-screens have been around for years. So what exactly were you thinking they had done?

[Hicks12]

Apple? Lower end?

They only do top end, none of this cheap and nasty rubbish.

In fairness, everything Apple have done has been ground breaking in recent years. Everyone laughed at them for calling the iPad 1 'magical', 9 months and 15 million sales later, it looks like they were right, again.

everything Apple has done recently is ground breaking? No, not from a technical point of view... they managed to market a similar product time and time again yet increase sales!.
Ipod nano
Ipod touch
Iphone
Ipad

All using similar SoC and all thats really changing is the screen and battery, ipad has a large screen and a hefty battery along with the same PCB as an iphone... hardly ground breaking?.

Groundbreaking is LG with the first dual core phone, first 3d phone/camera, and Samsung with their amazing OLED displays.

Apple hardly does anything special, shove average components in a box and design the box to be as thin as possible and white.... its easy to cool average components and when your paying apple tax its expected to be thin .


you would have thought they would have a look at Tegra 2 (maybe even 3 in the near future) as they are working perfectly with great graphics performance... when you put it in a laptop though its powering a much higher resolution display so it just reduces the laptops usefulness when you cant do much on it, and when you probably wont even be able to use flash...

Good battery life though .

[[AW] Whale]

Seriously? I assume that's sarcasm? Either that or extreme, ignorant fanboyism?

Not at all. You cannot deny that Apple are the best at what they do, they create something new and unique using current technology. Something no other company can manage to such a high standard.

A lot of what Apple does, whether it's their CE products or computers, use lower end parts at an inflated price, for example they use mobile parts in the iMacs. ARM is absolutely not, in any way whatsoever, 'cheap and nasty' - it is one of, if not THE best low-power RISC architecture. And FYI, this A5 is what's used in the iPad 2. There is nothing whatsoever they have done that's been ground-breaking from a technical standpoint, a marketing standpoint maybe, but tablets have been around for years - capacitive, multi-touch touch-screens have been around for years. So what exactly were you thinking they had done?

See above. There is much, much more to Apple than marketing. That is just Apple-hater rhetoric that is simply tiresome.

[watercooled]

I think trying an ARM CPU in one their laptops is a good idea for Apple, provided they don't sell it as something it's not. I also can't see them adjusting the price accordingly, but I might be surprised!

Edit: I really don't see what's new and unique about Apple products in particular? There are plenty of other companies out there producing different products which frequently have better features for a lower a price. I'm not saying the Apple variety is never good, of course, but I can't think of a time they've been truly ahead of the competition.

What exactly have I said that comes across as Apple hater-ish? Have I simply said a bad word about Apple not being this miraculous super-company and unleashed the hordes again? I could say exactly the same in reverse - I'm tired of hearing people preaching the Apple religion at me after seeing the marketing and doing no thinking for themselves.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Apple? Lower end?

They only do top end, none of this cheap and nasty rubbish.

In fairness, everything Apple have done has been ground breaking in recent years. Everyone laughed at them for calling the iPad 1 'magical', 9 months and 15 million sales later, it looks like they were right, again.

You just contradicted yourself there. The iPad is a low end Apple computing device.

[[AW] Whale]

You just contradicted yourself there. The iPad is a low end Apple computing device.

The iPad is a tablet, and it is industry leading. So no, I didn't.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The iPad is a tablet, and it is industry leading. So no, I didn't.

Yes you did as the iPad is a low end Apple computing device.

An A5 based MacBook would be running a derivative of iOS or a stripped down version of OS X meaning it would be placed under the current Apple laptops.

[peterb]

Apple? Lower end?

They only do top end, none of this cheap and nasty rubbish.

In fairness, everything Apple have done has been ground breaking in recent years. Everyone laughed at them for calling the iPad 1 'magical', 9 months and 15 million sales later, it looks like they were right, again.

Of course Apple do low end, depending on your definition of low-end. The fact that there entry point is higher priced than other similar products is irrelevant.

[[AW] Whale]

Yes you did as the iPad is a low end Apple computing device.

An A5 based MacBook would be running a derivative of iOS or a stripped down version of OS X meaning it would be placed under the current Apple laptops.

I don't consider the iPad to be a low end computing device, it is a high end tablet, which isn't trying to be as good as a top spec Macbook Pro for example.

So I disagree.

[Hicks12]

Not at all. You cannot deny that Apple are the best at what they do, they create something new and unique using current technology. Something no other company can manage to such a high standard.



See above. There is much, much more to Apple than marketing. That is just Apple-hater rhetoric that is simply tiresome.

Wait, something new? Could you give a more indepth response to that cause im curious .
The way i see it is:
First touchscreen phone, not apple
First capacitive phone, not apple
First decent SoC in a phone, not apple
First high resolution display on phone, not apple (until iphone 4, that is certainly the impressive feature)
good multitouch points, not apple.... 2 or 4 touch points they support iirc when you have things like the O2x with 10!
first tablet, not apple
a decent tablet that could do most things that a pc could do, not apple... tablets have been doing more than the ipad has done for ages... the lack of sales and it was a niche market before just means they had commercial success, doesnt mean the products actually good on a technical point or business point.


Apples marketing is ridiculously effective and thats where the praise and annoyance (for me) comes from, i personally cant stand the factually incorrect adverts and the fact it tries to demean the competitors and make you feel inferior as you dont have an Apple product(fails for me as i cant afford apple tax rofl). Without their marketing i dont think they would sell much at all, it would be sales to everyone else

edit: how can the ipad be a high end product? Its an iphone put into a big case, if your looking at ipad2 then its onpar with its competitors thats all.... Tablets arent high end, they are low end portable units .

[[AW] Whale]

New and unique doesn't always mean first.

To be honest, you seem to have a big problem with Apple and me spending time disproving your points is a waste of time as its going to fall on deaf ears anyway.

Sorry