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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    I keep looking at Getting an ssd but I looked at my Steam directory the other day and its over 200 gig atm so wouldnt be able to fit on an ssd

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by shakerist View Post
    SSD's are worth it, why, because your only going to live for so long, and I dont think its a good idea waiting for your pc to boot up, its a waste of life

    Get the fastest drive you can
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    Win7 updates are lightning fast too... any anti virus scans are super quick too.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

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    I keep looking at Getting an ssd but I looked at my Steam directory the other day and its over 200 gig atm so wouldnt be able to fit on an ssd
    nor would I

    that's what a large 1tb SATA drives are for

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    nor would I

    that's what a large 1tb SATA drives are for
    I`ve got the 1tb drive already but I wanted steam to load quick

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by shakerist View Post
    SSD's are worth it, why, because your only going to live for so long, and I dont think its a good idea waiting for your pc to boot up, its a waste of life

    Get the fastest drive you can
    My current main PC takes under a minute, and that's without an SSD. I can't even make a cup of coffee in that time, so the SSD is actually a complete waste by that score, since the existing spec is booted by the time I get back with my cuppa.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by yuan.li View Post
    why exactly???

    i was thinking of getting a vertex 2......
    Because the Sandforce controller works in such a way that the drive starts to slow down with use and the only way to get it back seems to be to Erase the data off the drive and start again.

    The other reason is the throttling that they have built to make them last for the life of the warranty, Which is in another thread by 'Cat The Fifth'.

    I'm not saying it is a bad drive but, I think my money would have been better spent on a Crucial C300 which was the other drive I was considering buying or even a Kingston as they were quite a bit cheaper at the time.

    I have to agree with Saracen in that it only makes a maximum of 30 seconds difference compared to a HDD and I also usually hit the start button, Then wander off to do something else.

    The real difference I noticed with it was installing windows or other programs.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    My current main PC takes under a minute, and that's without an SSD. I can't even make a cup of coffee in that time, so the SSD is actually a complete waste by that score, since the existing spec is booted by the time I get back with my cuppa.
    You shouldn't buy an SSD just for faster boot times - they're far more useful once you're into windows than the bit before it - I barely notice the faster boot, but I hate going back to mechanical disks.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    You shouldn't buy an SSD just for faster boot times - they're far more useful once you're into windows than the bit before it - I barely notice the faster boot, but I hate going back to mechanical disks.
    Absolutely. And I wouldn't, for that reason. That was just a reply to shakerist's (tongue-in-cheek) reason.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    I love this... /\ it's exactly right.

    Win7 updates are lightning fast too... any anti virus scans are super quick too.
    Updates & AV scans are only fast of the rest of the machine is too. My Q6600 with spinny disks completes scans (they are similarly clean installs, I refer to the MS SE 'Quick' scan) in a fraction of the time of my Athlon laptop with SSD...

    And yeah gotta agree, don't buy one just for the boot times, general quickness should ensue if the rest of the system is good quality. An SSD is also not a sticking plaster for a bloated/broken Windows install, many people could achieve same benefit with an afternoon's work reinstalling.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Ssds = quick boot,quick virus scan, quick search, quick game loading, quick application loading but if you feel all of the above already happen quick enough it might not be worth the cost.

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    They also do not need to be defraged, nor indexed with MS Search and their smaller sizes make them much easier to make system backups of.
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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    But it can be frustrating, especially with sub 120gb to pick what to store on them. You also need an empty bit of space at all times for the best performance.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    My current main PC takes under a minute, and that's without an SSD. I can't even make a cup of coffee in that time, so the SSD is actually a complete waste by that score, since the existing spec is booted by the time I get back with my cuppa.
    If an ssd saves you 20 seconds a day a year you will save 2.02916667 hours lets say your ssd is gonna last year 10 years thats like 20 hours saved, and im sure an ssd will save you more than 20 seconds a day

    But im 16 I only want a ssd for the speed not the reliability or any other reason, I havent had a hdd fail on me nor have I lost any critical data because I dont have any (apart from gcse coursework which was on a usb because im stupid)
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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by shakerist View Post
    If an ssd saves you 20 seconds a day a year you will save 2.02916667 hours lets say your ssd is gonna last year 10 years thats like 20 hours saved, and im sure an ssd will save you more than 20 seconds a day
    Read what he said again. The limiting factor on time is his making a cuppa. Making the computer boot faster will not speed up his cuppa making, therefore he won't save any time at all by getting an SSD

    It's always worth looking into limiting factors - will help advise your computer specing/upgrading to maximise results.

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    Re: are ssd's worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by shakerist View Post
    If an ssd saves you 20 seconds a day a year you will save 2.02916667 hours lets say your ssd is gonna last year 10 years thats like 20 hours saved, and im sure an ssd will save you more than 20 seconds a day

    But im 16 I only want a ssd for the speed not the reliability or any other reason, I havent had a hdd fail on me nor have I lost any critical data because I dont have any (apart from gcse coursework which was on a usb because im stupid)
    Kalniel is quite right.

    My PC boots in about 50 seconds, but it takes me about 2 mins to make a cuppa. So I hit "on" and go make the cuppa. 2 mins later, I'm back.

    Now suppose the SSD makes that boot 49.99 seconds faster, so it takes 0.01 seconds to boot. It still takes me a couple of mins to make a cuppa, so I'm still back after 2 mins.

    Without an SSD, the machine boots and sits idle for 70 seconds. With that (especially fast) SSD, it sits idle for 119.99 seconds instead. So if it's about boot time, I've spent £100 (or whatever) to increase the amount of time my machine sits idle by 49.9 seconds. And that's assuming the phone doesn't rig while I'm making the cuppa, or it'll be idle for a lot more than even that.

    For me, the time it takes to boot the machine is fast enough without an SSD that it makes absolutely no difference to me whether the boot time is faster. If that was all an SSD did, I wouldn't pay 50p for one, let alone £100, give or take. Of course, it isn't all an SSD does, so for me, any benefits lie elsewhere. And for others, maybe you, perhaps boot time is important. Fair enough. But I don't give a flying fig about any further improvement in boot times.

    As I said in my first post, whether SSDs are worth it "depends on what you're looking for, in my opinion, and on your sense of value for money." And that's a decision for the individual. Nobody can make it for you, because it'll be different for each of us. There is no right or wrong answer.

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