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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    OUCH!

    Still, doesn't really effect me, I'll still buy it

    My guess....they are feeling the pressure of llano.
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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Well to be fair, they didn't exactly make much of an effort not to appear to be anything other than spinning a wheel in front of a video. If they had really wanted to fake it it would have been a lot better done.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Wow....why would you even think of doing such a thing? idiot lol
    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    It was so small that mine wouldn't fit into it

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    OUCH!

    Still, doesn't really effect me, I'll still buy it

    My guess....they are feeling the pressure of llano.
    Me too it seems. The TDP reduction will be quite useful for SFF PC fans like myself.

    However,the 30% improvements to the IGP touted with Trinity means that even the sub £80 chips should be relatively capable.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Well to be fair, they didn't exactly make much of an effort not to appear to be anything other than spinning a wheel in front of a video. If they had really wanted to fake it it would have been a lot better done.
    Then why have the wheel and say they're going to "demo" a game anyway? Why not just say "we're short of time so can't do a live demo, but here's some video of an Ultrabook playing games..." and then show the vid. Yeah, OK, it wouldn't have gone down as well, but then there's no chance of someone calling you on it later.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    D'oh

    Maybe there was some small print on the screen which said "Not actual game footage"

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    They've proven it can run it fine in DX11:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5359/i...-on-ivy-bridge

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    They've proven it can run it fine in DX11:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5359/i...-on-ivy-bridge
    Interesting - the CPU is overclocked by 25% it seems! Does it mean that the GPU clock is also increased too like with Llano?

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Interesting - the CPU is overclocked by 25% it seems! Does it mean that the GPU clock is also increased too like with Llano?
    Running at is a bit disingenuous now that turbo mode has progressed so much. Ivy Bridge should have some great turboing so I wouldn't call it an overclock per se. Also engineering sample, so reported nominal speed might be way off.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Running at is a bit disingenuous now that turbo mode has progressed so much. Ivy Bridge should have some great turboing so I wouldn't call it an overclock per se. Also engineering sample, so reported nominal speed might be way off.
    Windows reports the nominal base clock AFAIK not the Turbo Boost speed. The thing is if the CPU clockspeeds and GPU clockspeeds are linked then the IGP clockspeeds will be higher if the CPU is overclocked. It happens with Llano.

    TBH,they should have just fired up CPU-Z and GPU-Z and asked Anandtech to take a picture.

    Edit!!

    Also,another interesting fact is that the video in the OP,the presenter was talking about Ultrabooks too! The laptop used in Anandtech link looks like a standard laptop which has less thermal constraints.

    It seems the Ultrabook CPU SKUs have a severely underclocked IGP:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5192/i...ineup-overview
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 10-01-2012 at 11:18 PM.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    They've proven it can run it fine in DX11
    Which makes the ham-fisted non-demo debacle look even more ill-advised... unless, as CAT says, the ultrabook SKUs are clock-speed limited sufficiently that the games *don't* run smoothly (one of CAT's earlier links was to an article saying that ULV sandy bridge is less capable, in gaming terms, than an E350...). I still think they'd have been better off just saying straight up "we don't have time to run a live game demo today, but here's a video of Ivy Bridge running DX11 games..." rather than that laughable attempt to fudge a live demo....

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    people prolly fake seminar demonstrations alot, but this guy was indeed terrible at making it look like a convincing live demo

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Well, it seems that it has problems with videoplay since the video lagged up at the start.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Also,another interesting fact is that the video in the OP,the presenter was talking about Ultrabooks too! The laptop used in Anandtech link looks like a standard laptop which has less thermal constraints.
    Here it is running on the ultrabook (the exact one used in the 'live demo'):

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5391/i...idge-ultrabook

    The Ivy Bridge part inside runs at 2.0GHz by default but it supports configurable TDP, which is where the 2.5GHz value that Windows reports comes from.

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    Re: Intel fakes Ivy Bridge Graphics at CES 2012!

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Here it is running on the ultrabook (the exact one used in the 'live demo'):

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5391/i...idge-ultrabook
    Right,so basically they upped the TDP passed the 17W value,so both the CPU and IGP can run at a higher clockspeed?? The 35W parts have significantly higher base clockspeeds for both the CPU and GPU.

    BTW,if you at this list the part is listed:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5192/i...ineup-overview

    The part looks like the i7-3667U which has a 2GHZ base clockspeed.

    Edit!!

    It seems the 17W can be configured upto 33W:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4764/i...e-tdp-detailed
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 12-01-2012 at 01:02 PM.

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