http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...book-demo.aspx
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/09/i...-stage-at-ces/
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OUCH!
Still, doesn't really effect me, I'll still buy it :P
My guess....they are feeling the pressure of llano.
Well to be fair, they didn't exactly make much of an effort not to appear to be anything other than spinning a wheel in front of a video. If they had really wanted to fake it it would have been a lot better done.
Wow....why would you even think of doing such a thing? idiot lol
Me too it seems. The TDP reduction will be quite useful for SFF PC fans like myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaithis
However,the 30% improvements to the IGP touted with Trinity means that even the sub £80 chips should be relatively capable.
Then why have the wheel and say they're going to "demo" a game anyway? Why not just say "we're short of time so can't do a live demo, but here's some video of an Ultrabook playing games..." and then show the vid. Yeah, OK, it wouldn't have gone down as well, but then there's no chance of someone calling you on it later.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalniel
D'oh:Oops:
Maybe there was some small print on the screen which said "Not actual game footage"
They've proven it can run it fine in DX11:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5359/i...-on-ivy-bridge
Interesting - the CPU is overclocked by 25% it seems! Does it mean that the GPU clock is also increased too like with Llano?Quote:
Originally Posted by kalniel
Running at is a bit disingenuous now that turbo mode has progressed so much. Ivy Bridge should have some great turboing so I wouldn't call it an overclock per se. Also engineering sample, so reported nominal speed might be way off.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Windows reports the nominal base clock AFAIK not the Turbo Boost speed. The thing is if the CPU clockspeeds and GPU clockspeeds are linked then the IGP clockspeeds will be higher if the CPU is overclocked. It happens with Llano.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalniel
TBH,they should have just fired up CPU-Z and GPU-Z and asked Anandtech to take a picture.
Edit!!
Also,another interesting fact is that the video in the OP,the presenter was talking about Ultrabooks too! The laptop used in Anandtech link looks like a standard laptop which has less thermal constraints.
It seems the Ultrabook CPU SKUs have a severely underclocked IGP:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5192/i...ineup-overview
Which makes the ham-fisted non-demo debacle look even more ill-advised... unless, as CAT says, the ultrabook SKUs are clock-speed limited sufficiently that the games *don't* run smoothly (one of CAT's earlier links was to an article saying that ULV sandy bridge is less capable, in gaming terms, than an E350...). I still think they'd have been better off just saying straight up "we don't have time to run a live game demo today, but here's a video of Ivy Bridge running DX11 games..." rather than that laughable attempt to fudge a live demo....Quote:
Originally Posted by kalniel
people prolly fake seminar demonstrations alot, but this guy was indeed terrible at making it look like a convincing live demo
Well, it seems that it has problems with videoplay since the video lagged up at the start.
Here it is running on the ultrabook (the exact one used in the 'live demo'):Quote:
Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5391/i...idge-ultrabook
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The Ivy Bridge part inside runs at 2.0GHz by default but it supports configurable TDP, which is where the 2.5GHz value that Windows reports comes from.
Right,so basically they upped the TDP passed the 17W value,so both the CPU and IGP can run at a higher clockspeed?? The 35W parts have significantly higher base clockspeeds for both the CPU and GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by kalniel
BTW,if you at this list the part is listed:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5192/i...ineup-overview
The part looks like the i7-3667U which has a 2GHZ base clockspeed.
Edit!!
It seems the 17W can be configured upto 33W:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4764/i...e-tdp-detailed
I wonder if Trinity does a similar thing too?? AMD has configurable TDPs for their Opterons.
A shame though that Anandtech has completely ignored that demo ATM. Hopefully,they will have it up today.
The video on BSN of them playing on the same model of ultrabook looks far more jerky than the video they played at the briefing, and it looks to be running on lower settings too, not really impressed by any igp tbh but I would rather have an amd igp if I had to choose.
From what I have seen of Intel drivers of the past, I assume that is the only game they can find that doesn't crash in under a minute :)
You say that.. but why the video back up? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix
Oh come on guys, who here expected an IGP to *really* be capable of drawing polygons faster than a kid with a pack of Crayola?
I think that is the kicker here though. I expect the Intel IGP really is capable of running a basic DX11 game. Sadly I expect their drivers will never let it happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by directhex
My E350 mini laptop mainly plays plants vs zombies so my requirements are not hardcore. It mainly consists of "Don't artefact, certainly don't crash".
The £50 A4-3400 has around the same IGP performance as the HD3000 in the £100+ Core i3 2105.
The IGP is very close to an HD6450 graphics card which is around £25 to £30.
The A8-3850 and A8-3870K have an IGP which is similar in speed to an HD5550 GDDR5 or an HD4670.
For a lot of pre-built desktops it means they will be capable of running even some newer games at reasonable settings.