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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabs
    Raid 5 starts in £100's of pounds and overkill for a home system...
    Really? One extra drive separates you from raid drive - Not really that much more.

    However, I personally think Raid is overkill for a home PC. You want speed? Get a 15k U320 SCSI drive for your OS, and keep your Big Drive's for storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiff Lemon
    rocketraid rocks, quite frankly. i've tried a few cheap-ass raid controllers, highpoint win hands down

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    I agree with Jiffy - if it aint got a 5 after it then it aint proper bo raid

    I've yet to try cheap ass raid 5 controllers, but i'd always be wondering to myself if not having 128mb cache on board would be hurting my speeeed ....

    Thats the best thing about raid 5 - its as fast as Raid 0 for reading data, and its redundant. Write speed is where you will find more expensive controllers with cache outperforming the el cheapo 60 quid ones considerably, so for real video editing (and i dont mean editing a 1.5mb avi in windows movie maker) cheapo raid 5 may not offer very good performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butuz
    Thats the best thing about raid 5 - its as fast as Raid 0 for reading data, and its redundant. Write speed is where you will find more expensive controllers with cache outperforming the el cheapo 60 quid ones considerably, so for real video editing (and i dont mean editing a 1.5mb avi in windows movie maker) cheapo raid 5 may not offer very good performance.
    Yeah, imagine re-encoding a 2GB video. The CPU is working away at re-encoding it, and is trying to write to disk, only the RAID controller needs the CPU to calculate the parity, and needs system RAM because it has no onboard cache. It could be a performance disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kez
    Kez's next system will feature three 80GB Barracuda's (of which I have two already) in RAID 5.

    Sorry mate, but even my home systems have to kick arse.
    Nothing wrong with that its your money Whats the best price to performance PCI SATA Raid 5 card then? And no I dont mean the £60 el cheapo job... Thats 100's of £'s for the drives and the PCI RAID 5 card together, you could buy a complete system for that.

    If money was no object I'd have a nice RAID 5 U/320 SCSI 15k setup

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    I'd say this:

    http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?s...9-C615391841FE



    It does do some of the work itself, although not all of it. That should be OK for a high end workstation. However, a vid editing system, or a server, would need something by 3ware or Adaptec, as the FastTrack from Promise just wouldn't cut it.
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    There's a chap selling a load of SCSI gear including an Intel U160 controller card with 256MB in the FS/FT forums. I'm tempted to extend my overdrive once again, but I can't really justify it.

    Rich :¬)

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    I find it easier to work with a single 230gig partition than 2x120...

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    i prefer the latter i have 10 partitions over 4 drives which lets me organise my stuff better. If 1 partition flops then i still have the rest if drive goes poop then i cry...again...farken IBM with their jammy deathstars!

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    I wouldn't think about running RIAD for performance on any integrated solution - a 3ware or whatever yes. However, integrated is merely for backup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kez
    Kez's next system will feature three 80GB Barracuda's (of which I have two already) in RAID 5.

    Sorry mate, but even my home systems have to kick arse.
    ...and its going to have a PCI-E Raid 5 card

    I use raid 0 and see a considerable speed increase in video editting from my DV camera to WMV or even to a standard my DVD player will support ( DivX ).

    As for gaming - Raid 0 does increase the speed of loading, with farcry and UT2004 loading quite faster than normal. I also agree with Spuds comments that 1 "virtual" drive is easier to work with than 2 seperate drives. I'm using 2 x 200 Gb seagates now and as soon as I've got my new mobo, cpu, gfx cards and other essential items I'm gutting this system and installing some nice raid 5 action so I can have enough storage for my games collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rave
    There's a chap selling a load of SCSI gear including an Intel U160 controller card with 256MB in the FS/FT forums. I'm tempted to extend my overdrive once again, but I can't really justify it.

    Rich :¬)
    Its nice how these threads re-surface when theres a RAID setup in the FS forum again
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