64bit Athlon- the major differences

[Stoo]

Meantime, it SEEMS that the 754 has been quick, but the new Nforce250 (standard) only supports it on a slower chipset, and the quicker Nforce250 Gb supports only the 939.

Is that it?

Nope, apparently there are 754 boards running the 250gb chipset (Hexus has reviewed a couple..)

[Zak33]

940 is already dead? If so..lets discount it as the first stage of the 64 revolution...vital at the time, but now gone.

754 is still alive, and has a good few mobo's supporting it, goes quicker than the original Athlon Xp Bartons, and is good value right now. However the nforce chipsets are slower for that one. VIA supports it natively.

939 will come/does come in 2 versions....a 512 and a 1mb cache.....supported by both nforce 250 AND VIA chipsets at higher speeds for mem and other features. 939 chips are more akin to Intel in Price.....big dough, and the increases as you go further up the range are bigger and bigger.

Is that right?

[Stoo]

Looks about right..

Edit: Arrgh, no, 940 is still being used for Opterons at the moment..

[Zak33]

Stoo..you are right....I was making progress there and now hit a wall cos I read something somewhere else.

Tarinders latest review is a 250 gb chipset with a 754 in it and 3 memory slots.

SO....the 754 aint dead yet!

[Lee H]

aye.

I'm personally waiting for the nforce4 chipset motherboards with dual PCI-Express to appear so I can SLI using an Athlon 64 system

[Stoo]

Bloody hell it's a mess lol

I vote we ignore it all until the NF4 turns up then decide between that and the VIA chipset.. Oh.. hang on, isn't ATi developing A64 chipsets too now?

*brain explodes*

[Zak33]

BOOM

[Apex]

help my head just exploded

[Lee H]

/me enters to wipe up the entrails splatter all over the walls.

Nothing to see people - move along

PS - yeap wait for nforce4

[Apex]

Does this not strike you has stupid ?

intel have only one format for there desktop cpus iirc yet amd have how many ?

this can not be good for any one.

[Stoo]

Right, just had a look on Scan in the S939 section, looks like the Ultra is the best consumer NF3 chipset at the moment (1000mhz HT bus), all the others seem to be religated to S754.
The only other S939 motherboards they're listing are based on the VIA K8T800Pro chipset..

[Apex]

Want i wnat to know is if i wanted to go to 64bit wat mobo and chip i should get to get the best bang for buck......

[Zak33]

Stoo...it IS a mess...a shambles, a shower of cack cos the overclockers best friend, locked the Bartons, then they changed the entire face of their sockets, named them badly and then had a zillion chipset architectures to support them, some of which they must have had SOME say in.

iether way....we are doing ok here.

If someone TODAY was gonna buy and build a PC, what would they get?

Not a 940......its dead.
Probably a 754 pin cpu..cos of the value.
Possibly a 939 pin cpu...but at much much greater expense.

What chipset? Well, probably still a toss up between nForce3 and VIA 800....what do ya fancy? Maybe brand loyalty will play a part. I like Asus, I'd prob do that.

Next.....

ARE THESE CPU'S UNLOCKED?

[Stoo]

Over in the S754 mobo's they're listing NF3's based on the 150, the 250, the 250 Pro, and the 250gb..

[menthel]

AMD are in a state of flux at the moment and this should all settle down to two chip formats: 754 and 939. The 939 will be the up to date gaming one and the 754 will be budget 64/32 chips. Then you have to decide which chipset to go for!

[Apex]

tis a mess if you ask me.