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    Hey there,

    I'm soon to be upgrading my old mobo to an NF7-S v2.0 and getting rid of my old 2100 memory. Still unsure of what memory to get. I'll be using my AthlonXP-M 2500, so I'll be trying to get decent-ish oc's but nothing amazing, I'm not that hardcore!

    anyway i've settled on 2 value sets of ram, corsair and kingmax. The links are below.

    Corsair: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=52057

    Kingmax: http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/...06&cat=&page=1

    The price isnt that different but I'm not sure what to get. I thought the kingmax as its 3500 and with the XP-M it would give me the possibility to clock over 200FSB. Anyone know of any compatability probs with this and the NF7-S?

    Or stick with the corsair, which is said (in a few reviews) to be decent quality and clock well too, and should most def work with the board.

    Any comments would be great

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    I'd go with the Kingmax there. Supposed to be very good value for what it can do.
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    I'm a big fan of the Kingmax, having just put 1GB of the stuff in my Intel P4 based PC. I've used the Corsair stuff for my last two machines (both AMD based) and was very happy with it, but this time round it was just waay too expensive compared to the Kingmax (this is DDR500 we are talking about, at prices about 3 months ago).

    In your case, it seems the prices aren't that different, and so I'd probably give the nod to the Corsair, as it has been around longer and has better compatibility. The warranty and support by Corsair is also pretty good. At the end of the day, though, you'll probably find that both are more than good enough and the real-world performance between the two is very, very slight.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    I would go with the Kingmax as any nforce 2 mobo is up for a OC to about 220 fsb, esp an nf7-s... and after a little playing around with ur 2500-m you'll feel like OCing a little bit more.

    Just make dure you check the abit website memory compatability chart, but as kingmax is a well lnown name, im sure it will be fine....
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    Brand is IRRELEVANT!!! check, if you can, what chips the ram uses. Maybe try to find some very much uber BH-5 if you can, second hand.

    Now that BH-5 is no more, corsair and kingmax will be using somethign else. Should be good but I dont know what they use. If they use the same chips, then performance will be the same. Its all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan_phang
    Hey there,

    I'm soon to be upgrading my old mobo to an NF7-S v2.0 and getting rid of my old 2100 memory. Still unsure of what memory to get. I'll be using my AthlonXP-M 2500, so I'll be trying to get decent-ish oc's but nothing amazing, I'm not that hardcore!

    anyway i've settled on 2 value sets of ram, corsair and kingmax. The links are below.

    Corsair: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=52057

    Kingmax: http://www.overclock.co.uk/customer/...06&cat=&page=1

    The price isnt that different but I'm not sure what to get. I thought the kingmax as its 3500 and with the XP-M it would give me the possibility to clock over 200FSB. Anyone know of any compatability probs with this and the NF7-S?

    Or stick with the corsair, which is said (in a few reviews) to be decent quality and clock well too, and should most def work with the board.

    Any comments would be great

    JonnyP
    What sort of oc are you looking for ?

    Am currently running at 200*11 = 2200mhz with some corsair value ram on a Abit NF7-S v2 with 2500XP-M.

    For a lot less then there normal pc3200 ram so am rather happy



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    @apex - I'm not particularly sure at the mo. The oc that you have is the region that I'm at least hoping to get, I think the standard 2500+'s coould do that, and I hear the XP-Ms can do a tad more. Thats why I was thinking of getting the 3500 ram, so I have more possible headroom for OC if i get into it!

    @silentdeath - will have to do a bit of research if i get some time about BH-5, but i dont know if I'm THAT hardcore

    Thanks for all the opinions so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan_phang
    @apex - I'm not particularly sure at the mo. The oc that you have is the region that I'm at least hoping to get, I think the standard 2500+'s coould do that, and I hear the XP-Ms can do a tad more. Thats why I was thinking of getting the 3500 ram, so I have more possible headroom for OC if i get into it!

    @silentdeath - will have to do a bit of research if i get some time about BH-5, but i dont know if I'm THAT hardcore

    Thanks for all the opinions so far

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    Well am doing it with the value ram so am happy saved a few quid to say the least



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    @Apex, when you say value ram, how much did you spend on a gig? I have half a mind to just get a gig of crucial 3200, its good value and is half decent. I'm using crucial now, never had any probs with it, mind you, never pushed it too hard!

    Ahhh, decisions decisions!!

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    i too have heard good things about the kingmax, and my 512mb kingston pc2700 hasnt let me down yet, go kingmax
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan_phang
    @Apex, when you say value ram, how much did you spend on a gig? I have half a mind to just get a gig of crucial 3200, its good value and is half decent. I'm using crucial now, never had any probs with it, mind you, never pushed it too hard!

    Ahhh, decisions decisions!!

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    Timings are more important than speed people..!
    Well for mem bandwidth anyway - I NEVER like it when people judge ram by the increase that it will give from cpu speed.. even if your multi is locked, you will be buying crapper ram for an advantage you could have anyway aswell as decent timings therfore its not performance the ram has gave you and so you cant attibute it to the ram, which would artifiacially boost your opion of it in a some what fake way... - resulting in you recommending something that really has no reson to be recommended over anything else.

    Advise should not be based soley on your experiences (happens FAR tooo often on here!) but also on the technical differnces that you know exist between the product you have and the one someone else has. In other words dont recommend products in an area that you dont fully understand.
    For example I wouldnt advise someone what high-end NIC to buy as I simply have no idea what the differnces are... all I would say is a cheap realtek based one, becuase they are what every cheap pc has, and they work, even if they perform crap.

    Sorry for rant... not directed at anyone in particuar... not even this thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by |SilentDeath|
    Timings are more important than speed people..!
    Well for mem bandwidth anyway - I NEVER like it when people judge ram by the increase that it will give from cpu speed.. even if your multi is locked, you will be buying crapper ram for an advantage you could have anyway aswell as decent timings therfore its not performance the ram has gave you and so you cant attibute it to the ram, which would artifiacially boost your opion of it in a some what fake way... - resulting in you recommending something that really has no reson to be recommended over anything else.

    Advise should not be based soley on your experiences (happens FAR tooo often on here!) but also on the technical differnces that you know exist between the product you have and the one someone else has. In other words dont recommend products in an area that you dont fully understand.
    For example I wouldnt advise someone what high-end NIC to buy as I simply have no idea what the differnces are... all I would say is a cheap realtek based one, becuase they are what every cheap pc has, and they work, even if they perform crap.

    Sorry for rant... not directed at anyone in particuar... not even this thread
    Whats wrong with the value ram at 2-2-2-7 that seems fine and dandy to me ?

    I piad a lot less for this ram and it performs just has good has any other



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    Value RAM that does 2-7-2-2 is very very good!

    Usually its like slow ass 2.5-8-3-4 or 3-8-4-4

    Good find Apex
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    re: "Usually its like slow ass 2.5-8-3-4 or 3-8-4-4".

    Yeah, which translates to 0.00001 frames per second difference in actual gameplay. Even less in the newer shader-laden (i.e. GPU bound) games. :-)

    A lot of this OCZ/Corsair/Kingston/etc "hyper performance" RAM at near twice the cost of a 'value' RAM has got out-of-hand in my opinion. Most of the time they are using the exact same chips, but just modifiying the timings and slapping a heat spreader on. I just can't see anyone being crazy enough to waste so much money on the stuff for so little extra performance. Still, people do buy it, so I guess that's Sales & Marketing for you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomadd
    re: "Usually its like slow ass 2.5-8-3-4 or 3-8-4-4".

    Yeah, which translates to 0.00001 frames per second difference in actual gameplay. Even less in the newer shader-laden (i.e. GPU bound) games. :-)

    A lot of this OCZ/Corsair/Kingston/etc "hyper performance" RAM at near twice the cost of a 'value' RAM has got out-of-hand in my opinion. Most of the time they are using the exact same chips, but just modifiying the timings and slapping a heat spreader on. I just can't see anyone being crazy enough to waste so much money on the stuff for so little extra performance. Still, people do buy it, so I guess that's Sales & Marketing for you...

    Nomadd

    Value RAM doesn't have the same ocing potential as Branded RAM as they don't use the same quality control and PCB traces and design so in effect its no where near the same quality.

    Remember the memory that OCZ, Corsair etc is aimed at the real top end of the market not for your average joe.

    Its like saying why buy a kia when you can have a BMW that does almost the same thing - they don't they are completely different and appeal to very different markets.
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