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    SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    So I noticed with my new Hyper SSD that it doesn't like crashing.

    First major crash made me do a fresh install after it wouldn't boot into Windows, this was day one after I just installed my OS. System Recovery couldn't even detect the OS anymore, detected the other one OS on my other drive through, left with no choice but to reinstall again.

    So since then, I had a few more and I noticed after all the BIOS stuff, it starts to load Windows, but it's just gives a black screen, then some funny band of colours or lines show up at the top of the monitor... then after a few minutes, it finally loads Windows and everything is back to normal. Rebooting from this gives a normal boot up with a fast load into Windows.

    I also noticed it doesn't like restarting explorer.exe, if that crashes, I'm lucky if am able to restart it again if not, it's a reboot to fix that.

    My second major crash happened just now... I was trying to play L4D2 after installing some new mods and spray's and well, the game didn't like that, every time I tired to join a server, it would crash or freeze. I managed to drop to desktop and force close it, but it wouldn't drop to Windows... and Alt + Ctrl and Error wasn't working.

    So much for SSD's and their great speed and that it can't deal with something like this, so I clicked the reset switch and it just hung, got fed up waiting, reset again, waiting... reset again, waiting... so finally decide to stick my disk in and do a System repair... thank god I left System restore enabled so I could restore to a different date. Finally got back into Windows like nothing has happened.

    Since this is my first SSD, I don't know if SSD's just don't like hard resets and hard crashes like this or that this drive sucks or that the Sandforce that sucks this much. I read that it has issues.

    If this keeps happening, might be best if I just go back to my old drive and just use the SSD to boot games from.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    I assume it's the Kingston Hyper X ssd?

    How did you install your OS? did you clone your old OS?


    Does it have the latest firmware?

    Did you enable AHCI in bios before you installed windows?

    You might want to RMA the drive and buy a non sandforce ssd like Samsung 830 or Curcial m4, much more reliable
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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    Yes, that one.

    Fresh install, not cloned. AHCI was already enabled, but it's collected to an Lycom PE-115 HDD Controller card.

    Not checked the firmware since the tools can't detect the drive. :/

    Is the some other software that can find that out?

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    FWIW, I've been using a Crucial M4 for months now and have never noticed anything like what you're talking about. I reboot this machine only when I have to for updates, otherwise it's on permanently, no problems at all.

    That sounds like you've got some serious issues somewhere along the line.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    my moneys on the controller card.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    +1 for Controller card fail.
    I have had a Vertex 2e for a couple of years and now an M4 as well. I have never experienced any of the issues you describe.
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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    +1 for the SATA controller, some SSDs simply dislike certain SATA controller chips. Try the motherboard's on-board SATA2 controller instead.

    Also, install HDTune and check the Health tab for it's Reallocated Sector Count (must be 0 in the Data column).

    You can check the SSD firmware version in HDTune's info tab.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    I've owned: Intel X25-V 40GB, Intel X25-M 80GB, Intel 320 120GB, Crucial C300 64GB, Crucial M4 64GB, Crucial M4 128GB, Micron C400 256GB, a Toshiba mSATA SSD, Kingston SNV425 64GB and I've never had a single problem on any of them relating to the SSD themselves. That's 9 faultless SSDs! I admit that none of these are SF-based SSDs but I've just myself a Kingston HyperX (none 3k) 240GB and I'll soon be using it.

    As others have echoed, I guess it would be a SATA controller problem. I've only ever used native SATA ports and never had any problems.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    Why are you using it through a controller card anyway?
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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    I assume he doesn't have onboard/native SATA3? Just a guess though.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    i just noticed its one of those utter crap £20 controllers that averages less throughput than the sata2 the motherboard has.

    i guess the OP can see where i am going with this

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    Thanks guys.

    Yeah, my motherboard doesn't have native SATA 3, it's an Asus P5K. So since that controller card allows for OS booting too, I thought I use that to take full advantage of the SSD and not bottleneck it in anyway.

    My firmware is 501ABBF0 for the SSD.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    Quote Originally Posted by IronWarrior View Post
    Thanks guys.

    Yeah, my motherboard doesn't have native SATA 3, it's an Asus P5K. So since that controller card allows for OS booting too, I thought I use that to take full advantage of the SSD and not bottleneck it in anyway.

    My firmware is 501ABBF0 for the SSD.
    Try it through the native ports.
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    i checked into the controller cards, unless your spending at least £100 and using a minimum if PCI-e x4 your better off using the onboard sata2 ports. i have a pair of M4's and don't notice a slowdown

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    Yeah, as others have said, onboard >> any cheap sata card

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    Re: SSD's and Crashes and my small rant.

    Yeah give the onboard sata 2 a try, you probably wont notice a a difference between sata2 and sata3 anyway. Much better to have a stable OS too.

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