HDD MP3 players?

[SilentDeath]

Looking to buy a hdd based mp3 player (flash ones are not worth it when you condsider how small they are).

What ones are good? looking for one about 10-15gb for around £150.

Anyone heard of the e.digital treo 15gb player? Theres one in forsale for £100 but without power adaptor. I have basic electronics knowledge and could probably make one easy enough... but is this player good?

I remeber there was a thread about the ipods, in which someone pointed out several resons not to buy one.. I cant find that thread anymore, why are they bad?

[Stoo]

I got my Rio Karma for 170 all in if that helps any.. (yes, fleabay..)

[directhex]

i'd get a rio karma - supports every single os, connects by usb2 or ethernet, plays lossless FLAC & high-quality Vorbis (as well as mp3, wma)

[SilentDeath]

Wheres cheapest place for them?

I see youve also done a review of it, /me reads...
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD03NTA=

[luap.h]

or wait for the new Rio Carbon which will be around £175 apparently and has a whopping 20hrs of playback time!

[SilentDeath]

How much would a rio karma be if I imported one from US? $299 is still less than £239 after import charges aint it?
According to xe.com $299 = £162.139, import charge wouldnt be £80 would it?

Its stupid how something in the US is cheap but so much more over here..

The carbon is still too expensive. I mean, its MORE over here than what the 15gb one costs in the US... pathetic really....

directhex will hexus be reviewing the other two?

[Stoo]

£170 was what I paid for mine including shipping, there are several peeps on ebay that will guarantee that the player arrives vat free, so it should about about the same amount

[SilentDeath]

for a karma? :O :O :O

If I can get oen for that, then i will!
though ebay is evil

can you tell me which seller you got yours from

What about warrentys? only 90day in the us, maybe its worth the extra £70 to make sure it doesnt bork for another 270 days :E

Also I was reading that the rio's can be modded with laptop hdd's so I suppose all is not lost if it does b0rk, and then you can give it a 40gb one instead. anyone tryed this?
Only problem is the hdd is going to be a bit bigger...
http://www.mindknob.com/hack/

[SilentDeath]

Hmm theres loads on there (I just looked) but everything, EVERYTHING on ebay looks dodgy, stuff imported from usa espcially.

[Jonny M]

Stoo if you could tell me the ID of the guy on eBay you got yours from and if it went smoothly etc that would be great.

Decided that I like gapless playback too much to get an iPod, even if I only have a few CDs which are continuous audio, it would ruin them if gaps were shoved in.

[myth]

IHP 120! Thats all I'm going to say!

Edit: They are a bit pricey over in the UK!!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...676601-9458268

[Spud1]

pfft all u ipod haters out there. i love my ipod =) only £200 direct from apple, the best looks of any of the players mentioned here, great software [if you like iTunes that is] and an easy to use UI. Gapless playback is really only a minor thing, and i'm glad its not there as it wld really piss me off tbh =)

[SilentDeath]

"the best looks of any of the players mentioned here"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA













You crazy and blind, now please LEAVE my thread.

[directhex]

pfft all u ipod haters out there. i love my ipod =) only £200 direct from apple, the best looks of any of the players mentioned here, great software [if you like iTunes that is] and an easy to use UI. Gapless playback is really only a minor thing, and i'm glad its not there as it wld really piss me off tbh =)

annoy you? try... the prodigy, the fat of the land, the inteval between funky **** and serial thrilla. that requires gapless to not harm ears. or the interval between tracks 3 & 4 of the smashing pumpkins album adore. or pretty much every track on pink floyd echoes.

plus, it's only the latest generation ipods that can play large songs (> 32mb) without stopping at the 32mb mark for a rest

sorry, but whilst the ipod makes for a great fashion accessory, it's only a middling player for this "music" concept that some of us like

[myth]

directhex! lol.. lol...

[Jonny M]

And at the end of the day, a music players main aim is to play music well. That means sounding good.

Maybe if Apple spent less time making the things look nice. I mean most people keep portable audio players in their pockets along with all the other crap they collect.